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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body bgcolor=white lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:windowtext'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:windowtext'> extropy-chat [mailto:extropy-chat-bounces@lists.extropy.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Anders Sandberg<br><b>Sent:</b> Friday, October 23, 2015 10:59 PM<br><b>To:</b> extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [ExI] remote embassies<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>On 2015-10-24 00:28, spike wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>OK I have heard several reasons why we should have embassies, and do let us assume them valid. Yesterday we heard testimony by the former US Sec of State who held to the story that the attack on the US embassy in Libya was caused by an internet video, with no other motive offered as an alternative. </span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div></div></blockquote><p class=MsoNormal><br><span style='color:#1F497D'>>…</span>Sigh. And do you think that is actually a plausible explanation?<span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:windowtext'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:windowtext'>Hi Anders, no I don’t believe the story either. That video business was a cover story, but a very revealing one. We sent a message to the world that US embassies can be attacked, with the justification that they found something on the internet they didn’t like. The US will not even attempt to defend its property overseas, but will go on an apology tour for our having freedom of speech and freedom of religion.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:windowtext'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:windowtext'>It looks to me like that declares open season on any American travelling overseas. Freedom of speech and freedom of religion will not be compromised in the US. The government has no say on those matters. In the former Sec of State and now presidential candidate’s testimony it came out that she had said “We will find the man who made the video and arrest him.” He was a swindler and they did arrest him on a parole violation. Since when has the State Department intervened in a local parole board action? He was clearly a scapegoat.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:windowtext'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:windowtext'>OK then, I am not a swindler, not on parole, so I can make blasphemous videos and post them to YouTube. I don’t even have a job, so it is unclear to me what the IRS can do to me, even with its new role and apparently unlimited powers as an 8<sup>th</sup> amendment-free attack dog for the federal government. So, we have shown that our foreign embassies are sitting ducks and our foreign travelers are accomplices to blasphemy.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><pre>>…But that also implies that the US is not able to protect its own embassy and does not trust the local polity to actually be able to protect it. That is a rather strong signal. Dr Anders Sandberg<o:p></o:p></pre><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt'>This was clearly demonstrated on 11 September 2012.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:16.0pt'>spike<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><br><br><o:p></o:p></p><pre><o:p> </o:p></pre></div></body></html>