<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:#000000"><br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Nov 23, 2015 at 5:19 PM, Tara Maya <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:tara@taramayastales.com" target="_blank">tara@taramayastales.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div style="word-wrap:break-word"><div>I predict the top genes parents would want for their children would be the following four kinds:</div><div><br></div><div>Health</div><div>IQ</div><div>Beauty</div><div>Talent (if this is separable from IQ, such as musical or artistic talent)</div><div><br></div><div>And the progression of genetic alterations would probably go something like this:</div><div><br></div><div>First - eliminate known deleterious genes (cancer, fat, extra chromosomes, genetic diseases)</div><div><br></div><div>Second - chose the better of two genes; if mom has gene for music in one location but dad is tone deaf, choose mom’s gene; if dad has gene for spatial reasoning but mom lacks, use dad’s gene in that spot; the beauty of this is that the child is still 100% genetic offspring of parents, so can’t even be said to be a mutant of any kind</div><div><br></div><div> Third - If neither of your parents has the “optimum” gene for a certain spot, but another relative… or another donor, related or not … has the gene… or it can be made directly (I don’t know the tech involved), then why not add it? </div><span class="HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"><div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(0,0,0)">Yes, <font color="#888888">why not indeed? I notice that you did not mention mental disorders such as neuroticism, which afflicts a large segment of the population, depression, psychoticism, psychopathy and others. Very few families are mentally 'clean' and healthy. And dental: put dentists permanently out of business - maybe even create a gene that enables a lost tooth to be replaced/regenerated. While you are at regeneration, regenerate telomeres and reduce effects of aging</font>. bill w <br></div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><br><div>
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<br></font></span><div><blockquote type="cite"><div><div class="h5"><div>On Nov 23, 2015, at 10:52 AM, John Clark <<a href="mailto:johnkclark@gmail.com" target="_blank">johnkclark@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</div><br></div></div><div><div><div class="h5"><div dir="ltr"><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif">On Fri, Nov 20, 2015 at 7:49 PM, Rafal Smigrodzki </span><span dir="ltr" style="font-family:arial,sans-serif"><<a href="mailto:rafal.smigrodzki@gmail.com" target="_blank">rafal.smigrodzki@gmail.com</a>></span><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif"> wrote:</span><br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><div class="gmail_quote"><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;display:inline">> </div>I think that the most appropriate test for permissibility of human germline modifications should be a composite of predicted net impact on social utility assessed by a subjective measure</div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div><div><font face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif"></font><font size="4">In the entire history of the world the human race has never agreed on what is good and what is bad, and although CRISPER may change many things I doubt it will change that.</font></div></div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div> <div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;display:inline">> </div>and an objective measure. </div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><font size="4">And of course there is no objective measure of right and wrong.</font></div><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><br></div></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex"><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;display:inline">> </div>The subjective measure would be a test of well-being.</blockquote><div><br></div><div><font size="4"><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;display:inline">My </div>subjective measure<div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;display:inline"> of well-being is to be smart and have smart kids, your measure may be different but there is no disputing matters of taste.</div></font></div><div><font size="4"> </font></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;display:inline">> </div>The objective measure would be a suitable econometric instrument, such as per capita GDP.<br></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;display:inline"><font size="4">Choose any 2 economists </font></div><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;display:inline"><font size="4">and they will give you 2 mutually exclusive ways that they insist is the one and only way to increase the GDP. And that is even without CRISPER. </font></div></div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div> <div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;display:inline">> </div>A first-generation IQ boost could become a net drag on the economy where third-generation boost is needed for an entry job, so it might become unacceptable.</div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;display:inline"></div><font size="4">And if one nation is able to prevent its people from receiving a IQ boost you can be certain that nation will soon be a footnote to history because other nations will not have such anti intellectual tendencies. But they probably couldn't enforce their <br>Luddite proclamation because the children of those who went to the black market and defied their rulers edict would be smarter than those who followed the law and thus would soon be running the show.<br><br> John K Clark</font></div><div><br></div><div><br></div></div></div></div></div></div><span class="">
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