<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><pre><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)">Ja, the insect population and diversity here is not nearly as good for amateur <br>entomology as where I misspent my childhood and youth in Florida. Wildlife <br>of a wide variety of genus and species were abundant in that friendly environment. <br> The buggery there was unsurpassed.<span class=""><br><br></span></span></pre><pre><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)"><span class="">Ah sir, I must disagree. Nothing in Florida or even the Amazon can hold a candle<br> to southern<br></span></span></pre><pre><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)"><span class="">Louisiana. Driving at night can mean using the windshield wipers to be able to see.<br><br> bill w<br></span></span></pre></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Dec 3, 2015 at 9:46 AM, spike <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:spike66@att.net" target="_blank">spike66@att.net</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div bgcolor="white" link="blue" vlink="purple" lang="EN-US"><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><div><div style="border:none;border-top:solid #e1e1e1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in"><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:windowtext">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:windowtext"> extropy-chat [mailto:<a href="mailto:extropy-chat-bounces@lists.extropy.org" target="_blank">extropy-chat-bounces@lists.extropy.org</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Anders Sandberg<br><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, December 03, 2015 1:00 AM<br><b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org" target="_blank">extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org</a><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [ExI] bees<u></u><u></u></span></p></div></div><span class=""><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><div><p class="MsoNormal">On 2015-12-03 05:49, spike wrote:<u></u><u></u></p></div><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">Now of course I start thinking of ways to measure how bees are feeling. Perhaps they fly a little differently when well-fed and fully healthy. We could raise some in isolation and feed them all the best pollen, try to create a control group. Then make some kind of optical measurement device, a camera which measures flight speed, oscillation rates, hover times, and anything else we can figure out how to reduce to a matrix of data using optical data. Then we compare to domestic bees and wild bees.</span><u></u><u></u></p></blockquote><p class="MsoNormal"><br><span style="color:#1f497d">>…</span>Clearly there must be some behavioural signs you are picking up, if you are not imagining it. I can imagine taking a bundle of data of perky and tired bees and using machine learning to categorize them - but that requires having samples of the kinds. One could also do clustering of their behaviour and see if there are clusters that look suspicious - but again, if all the bees in the back yard are tired this will not show much. <br><br>I don't have a good feeling for the Bay Area ecosystem, but it always struck me as having unusually few insects around. I was so happy seeing that moth larva with you and the kid last time I was over. <br><br><br><u></u><u></u></p><pre>-- <u></u><u></u></pre><pre>Dr Anders Sandberg<u></u><u></u></pre><pre><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></pre><pre><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></pre></span><pre><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">Ja, the insect population and diversity here is not nearly as good for amateur entomology as where I misspent my childhood and youth in Florida. Wildlife of a wide variety of genus and species were abundant in that friendly environment. The buggery there was unsurpassed.<span class="HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"><u></u><u></u></font></span></span></pre><span class="HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"><pre><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></pre><pre><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">s<u></u><u></u></span></pre></font></span></div></div><br>_______________________________________________<br>
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