<p>I haven't read the thread closely, but might I ask, semirhetorically, who had, or acquired, title to the land in question, and how they got it? </p>
<p>Me, I seem to recall a story that a plutocrat named Dole had gunboats brought in over the objections of the US Secretary of State. During the Pacific Adventurism phase of American foreign policy. Everyone else had, or was seeking, territory thereabouts; the USA had manifest destiny to play catch-up on.</p>
<p>Why would you EVER let an indigenous people win anything [back]? It's virtually UN-AMERICAN!!!</p>
<p>/relurk </p>
<div class="gmail_quote">On Dec 4, 2015 8:01 PM, "Will Steinberg" <<a href="mailto:steinberg.will@gmail.com">steinberg.will@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br type="attribution"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">Anders, I think the story of Muspelheim and Niflheim combining to produce the universe has a lot of value. This beginning is echoed in almost every religion, where, basically, something energetic, psychic, hot, or fast-moving interacts with another thing that is laconic, cthonic, cold and slow-moving, and that creates the universe. With very broad brushes I might relate the slow, inward-moving, yin-like force to the strong force and gravity, and the fast, outward-moving, yang-like force to the weak force and electromagnetism. <div><br></div><div>I'm not sure about the cow. Something about the coaxing of humanity out of nature by selection. With a tongue.</div><div><br></div><div>But no I wasn't saying don't build the telescope, build it wherever. I just like to aggravate JKC's obstinance.</div><div><br></div><div>By the way John I am completely psychic, your shirt is purple right now and you had four waffles for breakfast.<br><div class="gmail_extra"><br></div></div></div>
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