<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)">My
 proof will come with California’s high speed rail project: paying off 
various religious and native groups will become steadily more expensive 
as more track is laid.<span class="">  spike</span></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><br><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)"><span class=""></span></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)"><span class="">Religious groups, no.  But our American aborigines, yes.  We have a giant guilt complex regarding them which is fully justified.  OK, so they were in the stone age when we came but that doesn't justify the slaughter or the broken treatises. bill w<br></span></span></p></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sat, Dec 5, 2015 at 2:07 PM, Dan TheBookMan <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:danust2012@gmail.com" target="_blank">danust2012@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_extra"><div class="gmail_quote"><span class="">On Sat, Dec 5, 2015 at 10:17 AM, spike <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:spike66@att.net" target="_blank">spike66@att.net</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div link="blue" vlink="purple" lang="EN-US"><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d"></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><div><div style="border:none;border-top:solid #e1e1e1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in"><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> extropy-chat [mailto:<a href="mailto:extropy-chat-bounces@lists.extropy.org" target="_blank">extropy-chat-bounces@lists.extropy.org</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Dan TheBookMan<br><b><span style="color:#1f497d">…</span></b></span><u></u><u></u></p></div></div><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">​are ​</span><span style="font-size:13.5pt">Donald Trump, Ben Carson and</span><span style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#1f497d"> </span><span style="font-size:13.5pt">Ted Cruz, world class ignoramuses all. <span style="color:#1f497d">…</span></span><span style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">  John K Clark</span><span style="color:#1f497d"><u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">Donald Trump: graduated from Wharton school of business, became a self-made multi-billionaire.</span><u></u><u></u></p></div></div></div></blockquote><div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p></div><div><div><br><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1f497d">>…</span>If inheriting millions makes someone self-made, then I guess "self-made" is a useless term now<span style="color:#1f497d">…</span>Dan<span style="color:#1f497d"></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d"> </span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d"> </span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">Using John’s numbers, he inherited 40 million, now is about 4 billion.  That’s 100-fold increase, when the stock market increased by about a factor of 20 to 25 in that same four decades.</span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d"> </span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">I grant there was plenty of luck involved.  Lucky is good.<span></span></span></p></div></div></div></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div></span><div>The luck of what? Connections with those in power that one can influence with a quite large inherited fortune? Also, what is the use of his particular business acumen here? So he can take a huge fortune and make it bigger. Why should such a man be given any power over others?<br><br></div><div>And, in this particular discussion, would you say he's a good judge of what direction scientific research should go?<br></div><div><br></div><div>By the way, I know one person who inherited approximately $1200 from his parents. He's made a six figure salary for about a dozen years. Would you say he's on the same level of Trump?<br></div></div><br><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div style="line-height:normal"><span style="line-height:20px">Regards,</span></div><div><div style="line-height:normal"><span style="line-height:20px"><br clear="none"></span></div></div><div><span class=""><div><div style="line-height:normal"><span style="line-height:20px">Dan</span></div></div><div style="line-height:normal"><span>  Sample my Kindle books via:</span></div></span><div style="line-height:normal"><a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" href="http://www.amazon.com/Dan-Ust/e/B00J6HPX8M/" target="_blank"><font color="#000000">http://www.amazon.com/Dan-Ust/e/B00J6HPX8M/</font></a></div></div></div></div></div>
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