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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>>…</span></b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> <b>On Behalf Of </b>John Clark<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [ExI] Religious Idiocy Triumphs Over Science Yet Again<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>On Thu, Dec 10, 2015 at 7:01 PM, William Flynn Wallace <<a href="mailto:foozler83@gmail.com" target="_blank">foozler83@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in'><div><div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>> </span><span style='font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:black'>I would vehemently deny that any insights gained under the influence of any drug is not obtainable while straight. </span><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div></div></div></blockquote><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'><span style='color:#1F497D'>>…</span>I would say that unless you can convince someone not under drugs that the insight you gained while under drugs has value it isn't really a insight. <span style='color:#1F497D'>…</span> John K Clark<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>I propose an experiment that is safe, perfectly legal and doesn’t even cost anything. Get your favorite music track, not rap but something with a melody you know by heart (old time crooners work fine for this and even Christmas music.) Play it thru your headphones or earbuds, turned up loud, and sing along with it. Record yourself with your phone or video camera. Oh you sound good, ja? Mister Rock Star you are.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>Now play it back. Oy vey, not so crooney shmooney now, ja? You didn’t listen to your silly self more than once? Not even more than a few uncomfortable seconds?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>Repeat the experiment with only one earbud, turned way down low but audible. Better?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>That whole notion of psychedelics offering new insights, I would need a lot of evidence for that. I would believe it makes a prole believe she is having new and wonderful insights, but if carefully recorded at the time, I suspect the result would be as cringe-worthy as the headphone experiment.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>If one took a tenth the normal dose and could demonstrate some positive effect, I suppose that would be analogous to singing a song with one earbud turned low. Some singers do that (the earbud I meant (well ok, some do the dope too, but I meant during the recording session the one earbud.))<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>Of course I am no expert on these matters, just sayin’.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>spike<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div></div></div></div></div></body></html>