<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto"><div>On Dec 22, 2015, at 12:55 PM, spike <<a href="mailto:spike66@att.net">spike66@att.net</a>> wrote:<span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: 11pt;"> </span></div><blockquote type="cite"><div class="WordSection1"><div><div style="border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in"><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:windowtext">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:windowtext"> extropy-chat [<a href="mailto:extropy-chat-bounces@lists.extropy.org">mailto:extropy-chat-bounces@lists.extropy.org</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Dan TheBookMan<br></span><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">…</span></b><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">>>…Ja, it is a compromise. But I like the notion of launching and landing at the same site, as SpaceX does. This has some big advantages, with savings in processing and recovery. </span><o:p></o:p></p></div></blockquote><div><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">>…</span>To some extent, but I'm guessing their refurbing will be done elsewhere<span style="color:#1F497D">…<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Why? You have all the necessary and hard to replicate infrastructure already in place, right there on Cape Canaveral. You have plenty of experienced aerospace guys already trained living in the area, the machines, a lotta stuff that is specialized for this kind of work, cheap housing, great entomology. The Cape and surrounding areas are the best elsewhere you can get.</span></p></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Because their facilities are in California and Florida is not their only launch site?</div><br><blockquote type="cite"><div class="WordSection1"><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">>>…It could be we have been in a paradigm trap for a long time. We maximize payload capacity at the expense of cost per pound to orbit.</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></blockquote><div><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">>…</span>What is to be done? (That should be translated as 'Who is to be punished?';)<span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Most of the aerospace decisions for both the space biggies, USA and the commies, were made based on war needs. War is wasteful. Sometimes good things come of that, technology and science advances in ways completely unforeseen.</span></p></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div>Broken window fallacy, no?<div><br></div><div><blockquote type="cite"><div class="WordSection1"><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">>…</span>The simple and correct solution to that issue is to get rid of the government.</p><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">They will be happy to be gotten rid of. NASA isn’t developing the cutting edge stuff. This should all be in the hands of entrepreneurs.</span></p></div></div></blockquote><br><style><!--
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--></style><div>I kind of doubt they'll be happy to be gotten rid of. They keep clinging on. By getting rid of government, I also mean no one is forced to pay for this stuff too. In other words, even space entrepreneurs would have to get money voluntarily -- not via government contract. That's likely not going to happen anytime soon... though no iron law prevents it from happening.</div><div><br></div><div><div style="line-height: normal;"><span style="line-height: 20px; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">Regards,</span></div><div style="line-height: normal;"><span style="line-height: 20px; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><br></span></div><div><div style="line-height: normal;"><span style="line-height: 20px; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">Dan</span></div><div style="line-height: normal;"><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"> Sample my Kindle books via:</span></div><div style="line-height: normal;"><a href="http://author.to/DanUst" style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><font color="#000000">http://author.to/DanUst</font></a></div></div></div></div></body></html>