<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:#000000"><br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Mar 3, 2016 at 9:23 AM, Anders Sandberg <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:anders@aleph.se" target="_blank">anders@aleph.se</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
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On 2016-03-02 21:13, Tara Maya wrote:<br>
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<div>A nude video being taken is a huge violation. It’s a
form of sexual assault. It’s not some funny little prank.<br>
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The problem is that it depends on who it is. BillK is likely
entirely OK in joking about a hypothetical Spike video, while to
others a nude video can indeed be a sexual assault and is no joking
matter at all. A lot of it depends on whether one belongs to a
vulnerable group, or how the video is spread. <br>
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It seems that the key issues is (1) a nude video means the intimate
sphere has been made public, having a chilling effect on it even
when there is no risk of outside peeking (this can be made even
worse by outsider malicious comments - they can put their barbs more
closely to the skin, so to say), and (2) the lack of control over
the released information - integrity is about being able to control
your information, and once it is out there you cannot do much to
regain it in that domain.<br>
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The problem with these is that neither can be remedied well with
technology or law. Adding astronomical fines will not deter people
if they think they can get away with it. Many intimate videos are
made for consumption inside a relationship, but leak out anyway. "A
right to be forgotten" is complicated to achieve outside a social
context. <br>
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One day we may build the cryptographic memory-DRM society of the
Oubliette in "A Quantum Thief". But until then it will be hard to do
something general and effective. <br><span class="">
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<pre cols="72"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(0,0,0);display:inline">I read where sexting is the 'in' thing to do in high school and if you don't, you're just out of the</div></pre></span></div></blockquote><div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(0,0,0);display:inline">'in' group. I don't know that we will ever get used to a lot less privacy</div> <div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(0,0,0);display:inline">but if everyone who had their nudity exposed on the net by some ex boy friend sued, the courts would have no room for any other cases. Clearly many or even most of these are without permission of any kind, which is hard to prove. And young teens, perhaps the most vulnerable group, are the most exposed to this. Teens of all sexes will do dumb things to conform to group norms and it's impossible to stop. For every complaint about it, a thousand cases go unnoticed - or more.<br><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(0,0,0);display:inline">In the case that started this chat, the lawyers will go after the deep pockets (hotel) but I agree with Tara that the people who removed the device and took the photos should be charged with something: You could make a case for assault.<br><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(0,0,0);display:inline">bill w<br></div></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000"><span class=""><pre cols="72"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(0,0,0);display:inline"></div>
Anders Sandberg
Future of Humanity Institute
Oxford Martin School
Oxford University</pre>
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