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I think most intelligent people would agree that ones and zeros can
represent anything dealing with intelligence and that there by
computers can also soon be designed to function like anything -
especially within younger populations and especially in this crowd.
(anyone here think differently?) Design a computer to be good at a
game - meh - we've been there done that.<br>
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But what Is very interesting is we should be seeking to be able to
design a simple intelligent something, or even just a camera, for
that matter, that represents redness and greenness, (not with ones
and zeros) but with something that is simply qualitatively inverted
from what I represent those two with. And I want to be able to
understand enough about it so that I can reliably predict and
demonstrate to you whether or not it is also inverted from, or would
it be more the same as your elemental redness and greenness. I bet
we'll all be very surprised about the the significant elemental
differences we'll discover in the qualia we all use to represent
reality with, once we simply start being interested in and asking
the right questions in a effing of the ineffable way. The only
interesting question remaining is, what is it that has my elemental
redness quality, and does your brain use the same thing to represent
your redness with, or does it use something different? That "goal
post" um I mean your knowledge of that red strawberry, is sitting
right in front of your knowledge of your face, if we'd just think
about it in the right qualitative way.<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 3/9/2016 5:49 PM, John Clark wrote:<br>
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Whatever is achieved, there will be a smart ass saying
that this is nothing special. Something else should do.
And then, this something else becomes nothing special,
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keep moving the goal posts and say that true AI is
whatever computers aren't good at <b>YET</b>.</div>
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