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    I got the impression the petition was  actually started by a bunch
    of democrat gadflies. But the joke is a pretty good one. Whenever I
    encounter someone being irrationally optimistic about the politeness
    and peacemaking properties of guns I suggest that this is why we
    ought to arm prisoners.<br>
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    Still, we ought to get away from the dreaded g*ns topic (we had a
    ban on it on this list for many years, given the fierce positions
    some people took). A better question is: how would we construct
    respectful, intelligent foras for discussing policy and how to
    stabilie them? I am not asking how to make current systems work,
    just what it takes to make a forum work well. Once we know that we
    might conspire to make them common. <br>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 2016-03-28 01:37, William Flynn
      Wallace wrote:<br>
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          <div class="gmail_quote">On Sun, Mar 27, 2016 at 7:09 PM, John
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                    size="4">Republicans now want to allow people to
                    carry firearms when they meet in Cleveland in July
                    for their convention to nominate Donald Trump as
                    their presidential candidate. Thousands of
                    irrational people who hate each others guts jammed
                    into one small hot auditorium each armed with a 44
                    Magnum revolver strapped to his waist and claiming
                    to have a larger dick and a better looking wife than
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                John, this seems to me to be totally normal behavior for
                the current slate of Repubs.  Do you think this is
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                Cowboys are all Repubs, aren't they?  Or at least the
                wannabes.  Highly predictable, I'd say.  Scream at the
                top of your voice and carry the biggest stick, ride in a
                Humvee.  Will Trump be the first comb-over president? 
                Combing over not just his bald spots but his earlier
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                personally experienced Earl Long and George Wallace
                (early rabble rousers and demagogues for those of you
                overseas).  (Earl won the entertainment value contest
                hams down - showed up on a flat bed truck, wearing one
                of those old man T shirts, sweating and drinking from a
                pint bottle and giving away hams and tubs of lard "Give
                a ham to the nigger lady in the back" while a country
                music band played.  And he won.  Easily.  For US Rep
                central LA.  Died two weeks later - heart.)  Democrats
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