<br><br>El sábado, 2 de abril de 2016, Anders Sandberg <<a href="mailto:anders@aleph.se">anders@aleph.se</a>> escribió:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">I remember being introduced to the openness debate on the list back in the paleolithic. David Brin's "The Transparent Society" was fresh and new (and oh so prophetic!), the cypheranarchists were fiercely debating with the transparency people, and the nanotech subset was considering just how radical radical surveillance could be.<br>
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My own view is basically that (1) Brin is right: transparent, accountable open societies for the win. But (2) to really work they need to be tolerant.<br>
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(1) is why the Snowden affair didn't disturb me by revealing massive surveillance, but by revealing how entrenched secrecy and lack of accountability is in the whole system - I would have no problem with NSA/GHCQ/FRA/... monitoring everything if they were themselves adequately monitored and kept honest. (2) is something that has crept up in priority over the years due to globalization and new social control applications (like the Chinese credit rating system punishing people for associating with the wrong people, or potential gaydar software). A global village of distributed busybodies forcing conformity with the lowest common denominator is not good.<br>
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Privacy, integrity, security and similar things are to a large exent psychological and social states, not states of knowledge or technological (in)ability. When we do not listen too closely to a couple talking in public, demand control over our different personas, or choose to trust someone, we are implementing them socially. The issue isn't tech, but that we are lagging behind in workable and agreed on solutions. </blockquote><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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Anders Sandberg<br>
Future of Humanity Institute<br>
Oxford Martin School<br>
Oxford University</blockquote><div><br></div><div> <font size="2"><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)">Like any libertarian dream, first and foremost, we need education to achieve any form of open society. I do agree with Anders there. </span></font></div><div class="gmail_default"><font size="2"><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)"><br></span></font></div><div class="gmail_default"><font size="2"><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)">And I guess it all comes back to the old good debate: <i>Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?</i> (who watches the watchmen?)</span></font></div><div class="gmail_default"><font size="2"><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)"><br></span></font></div><div class="gmail_default"><font size="2"><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)">It would be funny to make the following exercise: let's imagine a completely open and accountable society. You are tagged and publicly exposed in almost every aspect of your life. </span></font></div><div class="gmail_default"><font size="2"><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)"><br></span></font></div><div class="gmail_default"><font size="2"><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)">What things would be fucked up? What would generate inequality? What businesses would be at risk?</span></font></div><div class="gmail_default"><font size="2"><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)"><br></span></font></div><div class="gmail_default"><font size="2"><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)">- Health insurance. Good for some, really bad for others.</span></font></div><div class="gmail_default"><font size="2"><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)">- Small businesses and independent contractors (at least in poorer societies where b money is a big part of the economy).</span></font></div><div><font size="2"><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)">- How would relationships work? Would you be asked to share your tinder hook ups? Only the really important relationships? Marriage? </span></font></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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