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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link="#0563C1" vlink="#954F72"><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText><span style='font-size:14.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoPlainText><span style='font-size:14.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoPlainText><span style='font-size:14.0pt'>-----Original Message-----<br>From: extropy-chat [mailto:extropy-chat-bounces@lists.extropy.org] On Behalf Of BillK<br>Subject: Re: [ExI] before?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoPlainText><span style='font-size:14.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoPlainText><span style='font-size:14.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoPlainText><span style='font-size:14.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoPlainText><span style='font-size:14.0pt'>On 2 April 2016 at 16:12, William Flynn Wallace wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoPlainText><span style='font-size:14.0pt'>>>... Denmark is making a necrogenomic database: DNA from everyone who dies...<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoPlainText><span style='font-size:14.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoPlainText><span style='font-size:14.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoPlainText><span style='font-size:14.0pt'>>...Well, it will be useful if the dead start committing crimes.......<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoPlainText><span style='font-size:14.0pt;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoPlainText><span style='font-size:14.0pt;color:black'>Ja. Come the zombie apocalypse, we will know who it was who is coming to devour our brains.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoPlainText><span style='font-size:14.0pt;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoPlainText><span style='font-size:14.0pt'>>...The scientists want the database for medical research, but I would expect the police to be interested as well. Murders have been solved by getting a close DNA match which led to checking relatives and getting a conviction...<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoPlainText><span style='font-size:14.0pt;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoPlainText><span style='font-size:14.0pt;color:black'>Ja. The guilty have been caught and the innocent set free because of DNA analysis. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoPlainText><span style='font-size:14.0pt;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoPlainText><span style='font-size:14.0pt;color:black'>Do repeat that sentence like a mantra please, several times until memorized.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoPlainText><span style='font-size:14.0pt;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoPlainText><span style='font-size:14.0pt;color:black'>>...</span><span style='font-size:14.0pt'>Totalitarian governments would really like every DNA on file as everybody is now a suspected criminal. But so far there are still some restrictions stopping them...BillK<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoPlainText><span style='font-size:14.0pt;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoPlainText><span style='font-size:14.0pt;color:black'>Ja. So what we need to do then is prevent totalitarian governments.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoPlainText><span style='font-size:14.0pt;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoPlainText><span style='font-size:14.0pt;color:black'>I am personally acquainted with a relative whose grandparents were in the funeral business. It was a rural area, not much money in it. It is easy enough to imagine them being offered 100 bucks for some unknown entity to have 2 minutes to view the deceased and keep it quiet. Now an unknown entity has a DNA sample, the ID of the dearly departed and a good idea how she perished. This kind of information is valuable. If my own money is at stake (it’s my insurance company selling policies for instance) I am an inquiring mind.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoPlainText><span style='font-size:14.0pt;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoPlainText><span style='font-size:14.0pt;color:black'>Those of us who are old-timers on ExI, especially those who participated in the privacy discussions here back in the 90s and 00s, do feel free to post in regard to how your views have changed, how they have stayed the same, what predictions you made then which have come to pass and which have failed. Our openness advocates are no longer in the neighborhood. Well, I am, but Assange is gone, Burch is gone, Hal Finney and Robert Bradbury are gone permanently, so I (and possibly BillW) are the new openness advocates, ja? Others?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoPlainText><span style='font-size:14.0pt;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoPlainText><span style='font-size:14.0pt;color:black'>spike<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div></body></html>