<div dir="ltr"><br><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sun, Apr 24, 2016 at 6:08 AM, Anders Sandberg <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:anders@aleph.se" target="_blank">anders@aleph.se</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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<div>I first thought an Oberth maneuver
would not work on a sail, but it does - very neat. <br>
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The effective delta_v is the impulse multiplied by sqrt(1+2V_esc /
delta_v). This shows why this strategy may not be effective for
the final burn: if you want to have a delta_v much larger than
solar escape velocity (a measly 50 km/s) then the factor will be
close to one. <br>
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Accelerating the sails to a high initial velocity and then turning
on the main burn laser still saves you some energy, but since you
want to feed in many orders of magnitude more velocity all of this
is a minor improvement at the cost of extra complexity (=more
things can go wrong) and distance (=laser dispersion losing you
power). </div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>### I think I was making somewhat different assumptions. I am assuming that to get to really crazy speeds, or to hustle larger masses at respectable speeds, you will need multiple boost phases from lasers positioned along the trajectory of the spacecraft. As you noted, beam dispersion prevents very long boost phases from a single laser but chaining multiple lasers helps avoid this problem.</div><div><br></div><div>But of course if you start boosting from near-Earth orbit and away from the Sun, soon you have to use lasers positioned very far away from the Sun, and this means not being able to use photovoltaics to power them.</div><div><br></div><div>However, imagine you had a cloud of lasers surrounding the Sun at different distances but all close enough to be powered by the Sun. In that case starting to boost sunward would allow a larger number of lasers to contribute to shaping the trajectory and speed of spacecraft. The extra boost due to the Oberth effect would be a minor added gain, not the reason to perform the maneuver. </div><div><br></div><div>A cloud of lasers capable of shaping arbitrary vectors is advanced starflight, won't happen soon, but it's nice to think about the possibilities. Seeding the visible galaxies with life will be the glorious endeavor, humanity's greatest sub-solar triumph, hopefully.</div></div>
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