<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_extra"><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, May 9, 2016 at 3:11 PM, Rafal Smigrodzki <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:rafal.smigrodzki@gmail.com" target="_blank">rafal.smigrodzki@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">Tell me where did I lie.<br></div></blockquote><div><br>"The references you adduce provide no information in support of FDA's
attack on vapes."<br><br></div><div>That's the main one. You provided follow-up cherry picking a few points, suggesting there was nothing else, but that statement said there was no supporting information, yet there was. In addition to the many health problems noted, things like "The electronic cigarette cartridges that were labeled as containing no
nicotine had low levels of nicotine present in all cartridges tested,
except one." state that e-cigarettes tend to have false advertising too, which would be reason enough to go after them.<br><br>That said, there were inaccuracies in the follow-ups you did provide. (Though you were correct that the FDA memo suggests the nicotine in e-cigarettes comes from tobacco - but again, there was far more in the memo than that.)<br></div><div><br>"The BMJ article summarizes the low reliability of
research on vapes"<br><br></div><div>The variability was in the e-cigarettes studied. That of course causes variability in the studies; it doesn't say the research itself isn't reliable.<br></div><div><br>"the third one shows actually a reasonably
good level of precision in labeling of nicotine content of vapes"<br><br></div><div>Actually, the third one states, "Electronic cigarette solutions may have nicotine concentrations that are significantly (i.e., 30%) different than manufacturer claims." So by its standards, there is not "a reasonably good level of precision in labeling of nicotine content".<br></div><div><br>"Also, you are engaging in manipulative rhetoric ("garbage-quality product")."<br><br></div><div>That may be your opinion (even if you try to frame it as objective fact), but I was summarizing this from the FDA reference, backed up by the BHJ study: "DPA's testing also suggested that quality control processes used to manufacture these products are inconsistent or non-existent." A complete lack of quality control is garbage quality, relative to what is normally expected for something meant to go in our bodies.<br></div></div></div></div>