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On 2016-05-14 23:06, spike wrote:<br>
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style="color:windowtext">Anders, this might be the only time
this ever happens: I disagree with much or most of what you
posted (I left it in, below.)</span></p>
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Cool. And mildly frightening. <br>
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style="color:windowtext">Little evidence they work: very
much on the contrary sir. I might not say anything more on
that topic other than I disagree.</span></p>
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Would there be any way to actually document this fact? <br>
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My problem is that in my world a claim is not to be trusted until
there are ways of verifying it or that all (reasonable)
counterclaims have been falsified. Finding a way of demonstrating
that classifying actually does work (and how much) would be very
useful, and actually pretty important. <br>
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I can imagine looking for natural experiments where the system
accidentally failed to classify or not in parallel organisations, a
bit like how the US Army accidentally demonstrated the role of IQ in
soldier usability due to a clerical error.<br>
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Anders Sandberg
Future of Humanity Institute
Oxford Martin School
Oxford University</pre>
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