<div dir="ltr">If we visualize the space of all possible minds, the human male and female genders are tiny, almost infinitesimal, adjacent volumes in one small corner. The vast, vast majority of possible minds are not categorizable as either male or female, and the set of all genders is the /power set/ of all possible minds.<div><br></div><div>The very first human uploads will retain a recognizable gender. But if any ems are allowed any capacity for self-modification, they will rapidly, almost immediately, wander into realms that are no longer categorizable as human genders.</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sun, May 15, 2016 at 4:52 AM, Rafal Smigrodzki <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:rafal.smigrodzki@gmail.com" target="_blank">rafal.smigrodzki@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><br><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote"><span class="">On Sun, May 15, 2016 at 5:00 AM, Anders Sandberg <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:anders@aleph.se" target="_blank">anders@aleph.se</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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On 2016-05-14 04:04, Rafal Smigrodzki wrote:<br>
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<div>Is there a reason to expect that
ems would have a male and a female gender? We have to remember
that ems are not biological, and gender may have a purely
biological origin.</div>
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But ems start as scans of biological brains and retain the memories,
personalities and identity constructs of the bio-original. Since
most people strongly identify with one gender or the other, they are
likely to keep doing that as ems. <br>
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I think furries, transgender people and experimentation online with
alternative personas demonstrate that there is more fluidity than
many people think, but they are hardly evidence that ems will lose
gender identity. In the longer run, when people start mind editing,
yes, but not in the short-run scenario in Robin's book.</div></blockquote><div><br></div></span><div>### I have to read it, once it comes out on Kindle. In the meantime I would think that the short-run scenario is going to be really short-run, running in internet time on yottaflop steroids. </div><div><br></div><div>Rafał</div></div>
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