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On 2016-05-18 20:10, spike wrote:<br>
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<div><span style="font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Calibri
Light",sans-serif">Depends on how you view cell
phones. My view is that anything you do outside your own
home is visible, so it is legitimate for anyone who sees you
to see you. And record what you do out there. Inside your
own home, not. Outside, you are spraying informative
photons everywhere. Observers, nosy neighbors, local
constables, anyone who can see you: they are not so much
intercepting those photons as you are hurling photons at
their eyes. Or their cameras.<o:p></o:p></span>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Calibri
Light",sans-serif">Inside your own home, if they put
some kind of device in there, that is illegitimate.
Fourth amendment stuff, illegal for governments to do,
violating your security in your letters, etc. Do review
the wording and note this is not a permission, it is a
right, and governments do not have permission to violate a
right. <br>
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One of the problems here is other governments. Your government has
no right to intercept your private information without good
reason... but that does not apply to my government: to them, you are
a foreigner. And vice versa. <br>
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There is also the issue of government A asking (or "asking" without
saying it) government B to look at a citizen of A, so that A can
learn information it is not constitutionally allowed to look for but
now got from an unrelated source. Legal, but against the spirit of
the law and incidentally revealing information about the citizen to
B.<br>
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One can argue that there is a universal human right to privacy. It
is a moral right: it may or may not be encoded in law, but it should
be. Human rights are iffy from a philosophical perspective; people
disagree in what sense they exist. But it is not hard to see that
many human activities are best done privately: if I am held
responsible for half-baked ideas that I will later abandon (maybe I
should break the law?) or idle curiosity (like googling for
dangerous stuff) that will not lead anywhere, then we will both be
deprived of choice and information as well as the freedom to come up
with truly new things. <br>
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Still, the issue is not transparency/privacy but secrecy and
accountability. If somebody uses you likeness or information in ways
that are harmful to you, do you have a legal or moral recourse? A
system giving tremendous power to some actors must also give them
equally tremendous accountability - and if it has failed to do so,
it needs to correct itself.<br>
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