<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:'comic sans ms',sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><p style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:12.8px">I have a feeling this is quite doable, and might be really helpful in a semi-interactive way. The user sees the output, adds in the "foreign" trait to the protagonist child to give the social property, re-evaluates the script, and ends up with a short story about racism at xmas. Or a sad comedy about X's inability to handle snow. <br></p><p style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:12.8px"><br></p><p style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:12.8px">anders</p><p style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:12.8px"><br></p><p style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:12.8px">I read a few years ago about a computer that could compose write popular music that was very listenable. I did not follow it up because I am not interested in popular. (Of course in classical, you can find some that seems to have been written by a random numbers table (1930s and afterwards). Ugly ugly 'music'. )</p><p style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:12.8px"><br></p><p style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:12.8px">Is this an AI thing? Anyone?</p><p style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:12.8px"><br></p><p style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:12.8px">bill w</p><div style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:12.8px"><div class="adm"><div id="q_154e9e48360e88ec_1" class="h4"></div></div></div></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, May 25, 2016 at 3:45 AM, Anders <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:anders@aleph.se" target="_blank">anders@aleph.se</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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<p>Writing a script is fairly trivial if you use a
fill-in-the-blanks approach: it will produce either a random
story, or a cliche fest. Writing a *good* script requires
conveying some emotions or thoughts in a nontrivial way, which is
currently hard for AI. But I think one could do interesting things
here.</p>
<p>Imagine a semantic network of concepts, trained on a large corpus
of human data. Snow is connected to cold which is connected to
loneliness, as well as xmas and snowball fights that are connected
to childhood. You activate a few nodes to act as bias, and use the
activation spread to generate associations. <br>
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<p>Then you use the active part of the network as a value filter for
"ideas" generated by a script generator: the script generator
tries various characters, actions, scenes etc. and the network
checks which ones fit the overall structure. This might be a
hierarchical process: an overall story arch is tried, then parts
made. For example, if the theme is loneliness the script might
generate various things until it hits on "Protagonist X tries to
join group Y but is rebuffed because of Z" which gets thumbs up
from the network. The script now tries to fill in X, Y, Z and
since the network will have the activations it might promote
X=child, Y=xmas celebration, Z=snow. So we get a structure where a
kid is refused to join a party because she is snowy (which a human
will recognize is a rationalisation for some other social
property). <br>
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<p>I have a feeling this is quite doable, and might be really
helpful in a semi-interactive way. The user sees the output, adds
in the "foreign" trait to the protagonist child to give the social
property, re-evaluates the script, and ends up with a short story
about racism at xmas. Or a sad comedy about X's inability to
handle snow. <br>
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<div>On 2016-05-25 00:46, spike wrote:<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">I now have an explanation for that video
which enraged the Presbyterian world and caused the attack on
the American Embassy: it was written by an AI. <u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Or perhaps not, but I have seen videos
written by humans weirder and dumber than this one:<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><a href="http://singularityhub.com/2016/05/24/an-ai-wrote-this-short-film-and-its-surprisingly-entertaining/" target="_blank">http://singularityhub.com/2016/05/24/an-ai-wrote-this-short-film-and-its-surprisingly-entertaining/</a><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Those of you who played computer chess in
the 1970s know how bad it was and how some of its moves were
so absurd it would leave you howling with derisive laughter.
The programmers failed to write an embarrassment module and a
hopelessness module into their software. But even in those
benighted times, the computer software could beat some humans,
assuming the humans were stoned and already sucked anyway.<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">So now, we have computer-generated movie
scripts. For now, Aaron Sorkin can rest with confidence that
unemployment is not a near-term threat. But chess software
improved. It was playing a reasonable game by the mid 1980s,
and was getting good by 1990. Deep Blue beat Kasparov at his
peak in 1997.<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">So, will computers ever write a good movie
script?<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">spike <u></u><u></u></p>
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