<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:'comic sans ms',sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:12.8px">Why would it be ethical to have censorship in the first place? It's like saying "Put an AI in charge of slavery..."</span><br style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:12.8px"><br style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:12.8px"><div style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:12.8px"><div><span style="font-size:12.8px;line-height:20px;background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)">Dan</span></div><div><span style="font-size:12.8px;line-height:20px;background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)"><br></span></div><div><span style="font-size:12.8px;line-height:20px;background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)">Well Dan I hate to tell you this, but we have censorship now in TV, movies, books and maybe more. I read recently that about 40k books are published every month and some one has the say-so about its going on sale somewhere (where might be determined by its rating).</span></div><div><span style="font-size:12.8px;line-height:20px;background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)"><br></span></div><div><span style="font-size:12.8px;line-height:20px;background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)">I can easily see an AI being used for some of the labor of digesting all this material. I also think an AI would never be in charge of actual censorship, but the AI could kick out books, movies, that fudge certain guidelines so that a human, or a committee, or the Supreme Court could decide what to do with it. </span></div><div><span style="font-size:12.8px;line-height:20px;background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)"><br></span></div><div><span style="font-size:12.8px;line-height:20px;background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)">Even with my level of ignorance I am sure an AI can do most of these things now. Eh?</span></div><div><span style="font-size:12.8px;line-height:20px;background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)"><br></span></div><div><span style="font-size:12.8px;line-height:20px;background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)">Now whether there should BE any kind of censorship is an entirely different question, one that could be debated in this group if it hasn't before (not likely). Great question for libertarians. I'd start it off by stating that most censorship for children is unfortunate and tries to hide aspects of the adult world that they will eventually learn (and thus view their parents and teachers as hypocrites at the least), and be unprepared for. Not only sex: George Washington stole property while he was a general. Most famous people did bad things and we tell children only the good things. Why we should try to create an Eden for them, actually promote their 'innocence', is a mystery to me. As for sex. many poor children see it on a daily basis in their homes and seem to survive the experience.</span></div><div><span style="font-size:12.8px;line-height:20px;background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)"><br></span></div><div><span style="font-size:12.8px;line-height:20px;background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)">The other side of this coin is telling children about Santa and all the rest of the fantasy world we have constructed for children, which we then present as real.</span></div><div><span style="font-size:12.8px;line-height:20px;background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)"><br></span></div><div><span style="font-size:12.8px;line-height:20px;background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)">Are we crazy?</span></div><div><span style="font-size:12.8px;line-height:20px;background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)">bill w</span></div></div></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, May 26, 2016 at 12:55 PM, Dan TheBookMan <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:danust2012@gmail.com" target="_blank">danust2012@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto"><span class=""><div>On May 26, 2016, at 9:03 AM, William Flynn Wallace <<a href="mailto:foozler83@gmail.com" target="_blank">foozler83@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</div><blockquote type="cite"><div><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_extra"><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, May 26, 2016 at 10:18 AM, BillK <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:pharos@gmail.com" target="_blank">pharos@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><<a href="http://www.smbc-comics.com/index.php?id=4122" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.smbc-comics.com/index.php?id=4122</a>><br>
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Serious point though.<br>
If we teach AI about ethical behaviour (for our own safety) what do we<br>
expect the AI to do when it sees humans behaving unethically (to a<br>
greater or lesser extent)?<br>
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Can a totally ethical AI even operate successfully among humans?<br>
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BillK<br></font></span></blockquote><div><br></div><div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:'comic sans ms',sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(0,0,0);display:inline">Would you write a code for an AI that told it to compare humans and AIs? Do you really want to confuse it? Put an AI in charge of censorship and there goes civilization as we know it.</div></div></div></div></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div></span>Why would it be ethical to have censorship in the first place? It's like saying "Put an AI in charge of slavery..."<br><br><div><div><div style="line-height:normal"><span style="line-height:20px;background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)">Regards,</span></div><div style="line-height:normal"><span style="line-height:20px;background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)"><br></span></div><div><div style="line-height:normal"><span style="line-height:20px;background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)">Dan</span></div><div style="line-height:normal"><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)"> Sample my Kindle books via:</span></div><div style="line-height:normal"><a href="http://author.to/DanUst" style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)" target="_blank"><font color="#000000">http://author.to/DanUst</font></a></div></div><div><br></div></div></div></div><br>_______________________________________________<br>
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