<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:'comic sans ms',sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:'comic sans ms',sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:'Calibri Light',sans-serif;font-size:18.6667px">Why those two in particular BillW? Both look to me like good examples of classes which can be mastered at an earlier age than 16. spike</span><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:'comic sans ms',sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:'Calibri Light',sans-serif;font-size:18.6667px"><br></span></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:'comic sans ms',sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:'Calibri Light',sans-serif;font-size:18.6667px">Because they are not offered to younger students. Are you suggesting that a fast track student could enroll in any class at all?</span></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:'comic sans ms',sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:'Calibri Light',sans-serif;font-size:18.6667px"><br></span></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:'comic sans ms',sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:'Calibri Light',sans-serif;font-size:18.6667px">8th grade, eh? Just where would they have the time to take 12 years of classes in 8 years? Sure, they may be skipping a few intermediate math classes......</span></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:'comic sans ms',sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:'Calibri Light',sans-serif;font-size:18.6667px"><br></span></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:'comic sans ms',sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:'Calibri Light',sans-serif;font-size:18.6667px">10% is a lot - a real lot of people. I don't see why colleges could not offer classes just for this group, thus negating any ill effects of being put in classes with people 7 or 8 years older. I see this as more doable than rearranging classes so that the 10% could graduate before 9th grade.</span></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:'comic sans ms',sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:'Calibri Light',sans-serif;font-size:18.6667px"><br></span></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:'comic sans ms',sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:'Calibri Light',sans-serif;font-size:18.6667px">bill w</span></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Jun 1, 2016 at 9:22 AM, spike <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:spike66@att.net" target="_blank">spike66@att.net</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div lang="EN-US" link="blue" vlink="purple"><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> extropy-chat [mailto:<a href="mailto:extropy-chat-bounces@lists.extropy.org" target="_blank">extropy-chat-bounces@lists.extropy.org</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>William Flynn Wallace<br><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, June 01, 2016 6:49 AM<br><b>To:</b> ExI chat list <<a href="mailto:extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org" target="_blank">extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org</a>><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [ExI] education again<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Calibri Light",sans-serif;color:#222222">Suggestions please?<u></u><u></u></span></p><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Calibri Light",sans-serif;color:black"><u></u> <u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Calibri Light",sans-serif">>…<span style="color:black">No kid is going to be through with school at 12 or 14 since he will not have experienced all the classes that are taught, such as 11th grade history, or 12th grade finance</span>…<span style="color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Calibri Light",sans-serif"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Calibri Light",sans-serif">Why those two in particular BillW? Both look to me like good examples of classes which can be mastered at an earlier age than 16. Finance is not a requirement, but it is easier than plenty of the math courses. Set up spreadsheets for expenses, create exponential growth models and so forth. Both those examples seem nearly ideal candidates for being broken down into 15 minute lectures common in online curricula.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Calibri Light",sans-serif"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Calibri Light",sans-serif"><u></u> <u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Calibri Light",sans-serif">>…<span style="color:black">But if he has passed all the requirements for graduation, why not let him take college courses online? He could be allowed to continue to participate in the clubs he was in at school, or sports, so he could get the socializing he wants and needs</span>…<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Calibri Light",sans-serif"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Calibri Light",sans-serif">Ja that is a strategy, but really where I am going with this is not the individual prodigy here and there (which we have always had (and always dealt with in a clumsy ad hoc manner.)) Rather what happens when we get 10% of the 8<sup>th</sup> graders who can demonstrate mastery of the usual disciplines the mainstream is still struggling with in the upper grades? My notion is that if every student is allowed to advance at his or her own pace, that top 10% by end of 8<sup>th</sup> grade is realistic. My claim is that about 10% of the class is held back intentionally with the others, or left without help, or actively distracted with useless tasks to waste their time. Harm is done.<span style="color:black"> <u></u><u></u></span></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Calibri Light",sans-serif;color:black"><u></u> <u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Calibri Light",sans-serif">>…<span style="color:black">Why not call a local college and ask them how they deal with a prodigy who is intellectually ready for college at 14? bill w and maybe more later<u></u><u></u></span></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Calibri Light",sans-serif"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Calibri Light",sans-serif"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Calibri Light",sans-serif">They can do some accommodations now, but I can see problems with trying to shoehorn in dozens of minors into a college environment. We need some kind of basic rethinking, perhaps some kind of breakaway effort or Kickstarter or something.<span class="HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"><u></u><u></u></font></span></span></p><span class="HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Calibri Light",sans-serif"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Calibri Light",sans-serif">spike<u></u><u></u></span></p></font></span></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:black"><u></u> <u></u></span></p></div></div></div></div></div><br>_______________________________________________<br>
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