<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:'comic sans ms',sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><div class="gmail_default" style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-size:12.8px;font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;display:inline"><font size="4">Trump is how fascism starts, and don't think the USA is immune from it just because it has a constitution, Trump will wipe his ass on it and the people will cheer. </font></div><font size="4" style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial,sans-serif"> john clark</font><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:'comic sans ms',sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><font size="4" style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial,sans-serif"><br></font></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:'comic sans ms',sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><font size="4" style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial,sans-serif">Look at Europe, sinking into far right wing ideas. Does anybody dispute that this is resulting from the immigration of war refugees? Or the increasing population of Muslims? For 'Muslims' you could just write 'people not like us'.</font></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:'comic sans ms',sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><font size="4" style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial,sans-serif"><br></font></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:'comic sans ms',sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><font size="4" style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial,sans-serif">And here we are in the good ol USA reacting to the same situation, though we are not flooded with refugees. (We could take a lot more than we do.)</font></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:'comic sans ms',sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><font size="4" style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial,sans-serif"><br></font></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:'comic sans ms',sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><font size="4" style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial,sans-serif">What is behind all of this? Fear. Fear of lost jobs, fear of lost religion and religious principles, fear of different religions and races - basically fear that we will never see the 50s again.</font></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:'comic sans ms',sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><font size="4" style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial,sans-serif"><br></font></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:'comic sans ms',sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><font size="4" style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial,sans-serif">Putting up walls, stopping immigration, and more - these are far out solutions but they make people fear less. That, to me, is the Trump base. The base do not care about his ravings - fear reduction is enough. That even if elected his ideas are very likely not to be implemented is irrelevant. People want to feel better NOW.</font></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:'comic sans ms',sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><font size="4" style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial,sans-serif"><br></font></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:'comic sans ms',sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><font size="4" style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial,sans-serif">Thoughts?</font></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:'comic sans ms',sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><font size="4" style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial,sans-serif"><br></font></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:'comic sans ms',sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><font size="4" style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial,sans-serif">bill w</font></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Jun 3, 2016 at 3:28 PM, John Clark <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:johnkclark@gmail.com" target="_blank">johnkclark@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><span class=""><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif">On Fri, Jun 3, 2016 at 2:54 PM, spike </span><span dir="ltr" style="font-family:arial,sans-serif"><<a href="mailto:spike66@att.net" target="_blank">spike66@att.net</a>></span><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif"> wrote:</span><br></div></span><div class="gmail_extra"><div class="gmail_quote"><span class=""><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex"><div lang="EN-US" link="blue" vlink="purple"><span><blockquote style="border-style:none none none solid;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-width:1pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in"><blockquote style="border-style:none none none solid;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-width:1pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in"><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14pt;font-family:'Calibri Light',sans-serif">… Since when is that more horrible than torture for fun?</span></p></blockquote><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14pt;font-family:'Calibri Light',sans-serif">> </span><span style="font-family:'Calibri Light',sans-serif;font-size:14pt">These are your words John. </span></p></div></blockquote></span><div><div><span><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14pt;font-family:'Calibri Light',sans-serif">>…No Spike these are Donald Trump's words not mine:<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14pt;font-family:'Calibri Light',sans-serif"><u></u> <u></u></span></p></span><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14pt;font-family:'Calibri Light',sans-serif">I didn’t see anything in there about fun. Did you?</span></p></div></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div></span><div><font size="4"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;display:inline">Y</div>es I did. After bragging about the new innovative tortures he would dream up that we haven't used yet to get information he says "<span class=""><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;display:inline"> </div>And if it doesn’t work, they deserve it anyway for what they do to us”.</span><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;display:inline"> If it doesn't work, if you learn nothing from the torture because the person just doesn't know the information that you want then the only reason to torture is for fun.</div></font></div><div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;display:inline"><br></div></div><div><font size="4"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;display:inline">Spike, with a monster like that about to become the most powerful man in the world why the hell are we still talking about a bunch of stupid Emails? </div></font></div><div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;display:inline"><br></div></div><div>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex">><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;display:inline">></div>…<font size="4">Just yesterday I said that if Trump becomes president he will put people in jail for saying things about him he doesn't like. Some thought I was overstating my case but today after Hillary gave a speech highlighting Trump's ignorant imbecilic and above all dangerous national security policy Trump said this:</font> <span> </span></blockquote><blockquote><i>"<font size="4">And remember I said I was a counter-puncher? I am. After what she said about me today and her phony speech. That was a phony speech. That was a Donald Trump hit job. I will say this. Hillary Clinton has to go to jail. She has to go to jail</font>."</i> </blockquote></blockquote><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex"> </blockquote><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;display:inline">> </div>Doesn’t it make you want to hug your Constitution? </blockquote><div><br></div><div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;display:inline"><font size="4">Yes the Constitution is nice but remember it's just a piece of paper, a very nice piece of paper but paper nevertheless. The Constitution is only as good as the person who enforces it (the President) and the people who interpret it (The Supreme Court appointed by the President). I've been making the case that Hillary did nothing illegal but if Trump wins I predict she will indeed end up in prison but she won't be alone, hundreds of Trump's political opponents will get rounded up too. Trump is how fascism starts, and don't think the USA is immune from it just because it has a constitution, Trump will wipe his ass on it and the people will cheer. </font></div><font size="4"> </font></div>
</div><span class=""><div><br></div><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex"><div lang="EN-US" link="blue" vlink="purple"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex"><span style="font-size:14pt;font-family:'Calibri Light',sans-serif">>…OK, you're right, there was a subpoena. It asked </span><span style="font-size:14pt;font-family:'Calibri Light',sans-serif">f</span><span style="font-size:14pt;font-family:'Calibri Light',sans-serif">or all documents related to Benghazi </span><span style="font-size:14pt;font-family:'Calibri Light',sans-serif">and </span><span style="font-size:14pt;font-family:'Calibri Light',sans-serif">or Libya for 2011 and 2012 and she did so…<u></u><u></u></span></blockquote><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14pt;font-family:'Calibri Light',sans-serif"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14pt;font-family:'Calibri Light',sans-serif"></span></p><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;display:inline">> </div>How do we know that? <p></p></div></blockquote><div><br></div></span><div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;display:inline"><font size="4">We can't. If you demand I turn over to you all the documents I have on subject X and I give you a cubic mile of paper I can't prove that I didn't leave one sheet out. So do I go to jail?</font></div><font size="4"> </font></div><div><font size="4"> </font></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex"><div lang="EN-US" link="blue" vlink="purple"><div><div><div><span class=""><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14pt;font-family:'Calibri Light',sans-serif"></span></p><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;display:inline">> </div>When Mrs. Clinton arranged to have her own server</span><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;display:inline"> [...]</div><p></p></div></div></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div><font size="4"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;display:inline">Just like what 5 previous secretaries of state did.</div> </font></div><span class=""><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex"><div lang="EN-US" link="blue" vlink="purple"><div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14pt;font-family:'Calibri Light',sans-serif">When people destroy evidence, they appear guilty. </span></p></div></div></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div></span><div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;display:inline"><font size="4">Not when you can't explain evidence or what, not when you can't even explain exactly what they're supposed to be guilty of. </font></div> </div><span class=""><div><br></div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex"><div lang="EN-US" link="blue" vlink="purple"><div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14pt;font-family:'Calibri Light',sans-serif"></span></p><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;display:inline">> </div>perhaps arranged to arm Syrian rebels, perhaps in exchange for anonymous donations to a charity,<p></p></div></div></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div></span><div><div class="gmail_default"><font face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif"></font><font size="4">Perhaps, and maybe she conspired with martians to invade the Earth but you have zero evidence of that, and zero evidence those Emails were about anything immoral, much less illegal, much less TREASONABLE. And with Donald Trump wanting to torture people for fun, and threatening to throw his political opponents in prison once he gains power, and encouraging Germany, South Korea, Japan and </font><span style="font-size:large"><b>Saudi Arabia</b> </span><span style="font-size:large">and who knows who else get nuclear bombs WHY ARE WE STILL TALKING ABOUT EMAILS?</span></div><div class="gmail_default"><font size="4"><br> John K Clark</font></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><br></div><br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex"><br>
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