<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif">On Thu, Jun 2, 2016 at 8:57 PM, spike </span><span dir="ltr" style="font-family:arial,sans-serif"><<a href="mailto:spike66@att.net" target="_blank">spike66@att.net</a>></span><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif"> wrote:</span><br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><div class="gmail_quote"><div lang="EN-US" link="blue" vlink="purple"><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14pt;font-family:'Calibri Light',sans-serif"><u></u> </span></p></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex"><div lang="EN-US" link="blue" vlink="purple"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex"><span style="font-size:14pt;font-family:'Calibri Light',sans-serif">><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;display:inline">​>​</div>… Now it's <div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;display:inline">​[Treason} ​</div>a capital offence? Do you think she should suffer the death penalty?</span></blockquote><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14pt;font-family:'Calibri Light',sans-serif"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14pt;font-family:'Calibri Light',sans-serif"></span></p><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;display:inline">​> ​</div>No, that would be a bit harsh.  Jeffrey Sterling got 3.5 years vacation at Club Fed, for erasing a single email after the court demanded he turn it over.<p></p></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;display:inline">​<font size="4">Hillary erased no Email that the court demanded she turn over, and even if she did that would not be treason or anything close to it.​</font></div><font size="4"> </font></div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex"><div lang="EN-US" link="blue" vlink="purple"><div><div><div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14pt;font-family:'Calibri Light',sans-serif"><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14pt;font-family:'Calibri Light',sans-serif"></span></p><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;display:inline">​> ​</div>She broke laws.  That non-disclosure agreement she signed going in puts the signer at legal liability. </div></div></div></div></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div><font size="4"> <div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;display:inline">​Violating a ​</div><span style="font-family:'Calibri Light',sans-serif">non-disclosure agreement</span><font face="Calibri Light, sans-serif"> </font><div class="gmail_default" style="display:inline"><font face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif">​is a civil wrong not a criminal offence. You get a big fine for violating a </font></div></font><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:large;font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;display:inline">​</div><span style="font-size:large;font-family:'Calibri Light',sans-serif">non-disclosure agreement<div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;display:inline">​, you get hung for treason. ​</div></span><font size="4"><div class="gmail_default" style="display:inline"><font face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif">​</font></div></font></div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex"><div lang="EN-US" link="blue" vlink="purple"><div><div><div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14pt;font-family:'Calibri Light',sans-serif"></span></p><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;display:inline">​> ​</div>Stand by for FBI report.</div></div></div></div></div></div></blockquote><div> </div><div><font size="4"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;display:inline">​I am, and I'm</div> <div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;display:inline">​looking forward to my $10.​</div></font></div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex"><div lang="EN-US" link="blue" vlink="purple"><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14pt;font-family:'Calibri Light',sans-serif"><u></u><u></u></span></p><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex"><span style="font-size:14pt;font-family:'Calibri Light',sans-serif">><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;display:inline">​>​</div>…and she did nothing the 5 previous secretaries of state didn't do…</span></blockquote><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14pt;font-family:'Calibri Light',sans-serif"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14pt;font-family:'Calibri Light',sans-serif"></span></p><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;display:inline">​> ​</div>False.  None of the previous 5 secretaries had their own servers<p></p></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;display:inline"><font size="4">​Well maybe it is false, all I know is that's not what the State Department concluded:</font></div></div><div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;display:inline"><br></div></div><div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;display:inline"><a href="http://mediamatters.org/blog/2016/03/07/state-dept-concludes-past-secretaries-of-state/209044">http://mediamatters.org/blog/2016/03/07/state-dept-concludes-past-secretaries-of-state/209044</a>​</div> </div><div><br></div><div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">​<font size="4">But to be fair Powell said he's received Christmas greetings marked ​"top secret" and I have no doubt he was telling the truth. Secrecy inflation is a real problem in government, bureaucrats figure if they don't stamp "Top Secret" on something people will figure it's not important; it's become automatic almost like saying "Hello".   </font></div></div><div><br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex"><span style="font-family:'Calibri Light',sans-serif;font-size:18.6667px"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;display:inline">​> ​</div>None of the predecessors diverted ALL state business into a privately controlled unsecured server</span></blockquote><div><br></div><div><font size="4"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;display:inline">​And Hillary didn't conduct ALL state department business on a private Email server either. </div></font></div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex"><div lang="EN-US" link="blue" vlink="purple"><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:'Calibri Light',sans-serif;font-size:14pt"></span></p><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;display:inline">​> ​</div>John if you can prove that, we can net two additional bad guys, Powell and Rice.<br></div></div></blockquote><div><font size="4"><br></font></div><div><font size="4"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;display:inline">​Then I guess we're going to have a triple hanging, </div>Powell<div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;display:inline">​,​</div> Rice<div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;display:inline">​ and Hillary. ​</div></font></div><div> </div><div><a href="http://www.cnn.com/2016/02/04/politics/hillary-clinton-email-classified-colin-powell-condoleezza-rice/">http://www.cnn.com/2016/02/04/politics/hillary-clinton-email-classified-colin-powell-condoleezza-rice/</a><br></div><div><br></div><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex"><div lang="EN-US" link="blue" vlink="purple"><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14pt;font-family:'Calibri Light',sans-serif"><u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex"><span style="font-size:14pt;font-family:'Calibri Light',sans-serif">><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;display:inline">​>​</div>… Since when is that more horrible than torture for fun? </span></blockquote><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14pt;font-family:'Calibri Light',sans-serif"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14pt;font-family:'Calibri Light',sans-serif"></span></p><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;display:inline">​> ​</div>These are your words John.  <p></p></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;display:inline">​<font size="4">No Spike these are Donald Trump's words not mine:​</font></div><font size="4"> </font></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><font size="4">“<i>Would I approve waterboarding? You bet your ass I would. In a heartbeat. I would approve more than that.<div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;display:inline">​ ​</div><b>And if it doesn’t work, they deserve it anyway for what they do to us</b></i>”.</font></div><div class="gmail_quote"><br></div><div class="gmail_quote"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><font size="4">​And then Trump added:​</font></div><div><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;display:inline">​<font size="4">"​</font></div><font size="4"><i>The other thing with the terrorists is you have to take out their families, when you get these terrorists, you have to take out their families. They care about their lives, don't kid yourself. When they say they don't care about their lives, you have to take out their families</i>"</font></div><div class="gmail_quote"><font size="4"><br></font></div><div class="gmail_quote"><font size="4"><div class="gmail_default" style="display:inline"><font face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif">​Spike, after fascist barbarism like that why are we still talking about </font></div>Hillary<div class="gmail_default" style="display:inline"><font face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif">​'s stupid Emails and not about civilization descending back into the middle ages?  ​</font></div></font><br><span style="font-family:'Calibri Light',sans-serif;font-size:14pt"> </span><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex"><div lang="EN-US" link="blue" vlink="purple"><div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14pt;font-family:'Calibri Light',sans-serif"><u></u><u></u></span></p></div></div></div><div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex"><span style="font-size:14pt;font-family:'Calibri Light',sans-serif">><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;display:inline">​> ​</div>…Subpoena?  What subpoena? </span></blockquote><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14pt;font-family:'Calibri Light',sans-serif"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14pt;font-family:'Calibri Light',sans-serif"></span></p><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;display:inline">​>​</div>This subpoena:</div></div></blockquote><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex"> </blockquote><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex"><div lang="EN-US" link="blue" vlink="purple"><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14pt;font-family:'Calibri Light',sans-serif"><a href="http://benghazi.house.gov/sites/republicans.benghazi.house.gov/files/Kendall.Clinton%20Subpoena%20-%202015.03.04.pdf" target="_blank">http://benghazi.house.gov/sites/republicans.benghazi.house.gov/files/Kendall.Clinton%20Subpoena%20-%202015.03.04.pdf</a></span></p></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div><br></div><font size="4">OK, you're right, there was a subpoena<div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;display:inline">​</div>. It<div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;display:inline">​ ​</div>asked<div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;display:inline">​ f​</div>or all documents related to<div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;display:inline">​ ​</div>Benghazi<div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;display:inline">​ and ​</div>or Libya for 2011 and 2012 and she did so.<div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;display:inline">​ ​</div>It<div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;display:inline">​ ​</div>said nothing about giving the<div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;display:inline">​​</div>m<div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;display:inline">​ ​</div>everything<div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;display:inline">​ ​</div>on<div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;display:inline">​ the</div> server although<div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;display:inline">​ ​</div>she<div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;display:inline">​ ​</div>voluntarily gave the State Department<br>55,000 additional Emails<div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;display:inline">​.​</div></font>.<br>  <br></div><div class="gmail_quote"><br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex"><span style="font-family:'Calibri Light',sans-serif;font-size:18.6667px"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;display:inline">​> ​</div>Indeed?  So why did she erase the 30,000?</span></blockquote><div><br></div><div><font size="4"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;display:inline">​Because they did not involve ​</div>Benghazi<div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;display:inline">​ ​or</div> Libya<div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;display:inline">​ in 2011 or 2012 and were personal. I have personal Emails, don't you? She erased them when she knew the subpoena was coming but before she actually got it. </div><span style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">I have well over 30,000 Emails on my computer and if I knew I was about to receive a subpoena from my political opponents because they knew I was planning to run for president in 2016 <div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;display:inline">​and were looking for any dirt they could use against me I'd erase them too. So would you.​</div>​</span></font></div><div class="gmail_quote"><br></div><div class="gmail_quote"><br><div><blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex" class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex"><span style="font-size:14pt;font-family:'Calibri Light',sans-serif"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;display:inline">​> ​</div>I thought I was well informed but I never heard even the slightest hint of something like that before now. Tell me more.​</span></blockquote><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"> <br></span><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><a href="http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3287090/Benghazi-victim-s-father-Hillary-told-maker-film-prophet-Mohamed-arrested-causing-son-s-death.html" target="_blank">http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3287090/Benghazi-victim-s-father-Hillary-told-maker-film-prophet-Mohamed-arrested-causing-son-s-death.html</a></span></blockquote><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman',serif"><br></p><font size="4">If <div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;display:inline">​that's​</div></font><span style="font-size:large"> true it would be a real Hillary scandal not like this silly Email stuff</span><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:large;font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;display:inline">​. It wouldn't be ​</div><span style="font-size:large"> </span><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:large;display:inline"><font face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif">​as bad as Trump's repeated asserting that the libels law should be strengthened but still pretty damn bad. But is it true? </font></div><span style="font-size:large"> All we have is a second hand account from Fox news of a paraphrase of what Hillary was supposed to have said</span><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:large;font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;display:inline">​,​</div><span style="font-size:large"> namely "we are going to have the filmmaker arrested who was responsible for the death of my son". I must say it seems very very odd that a Secretary Of State would say to a grieving father </span><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:large;font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;display:inline">​something like "​</div><span style="font-size:large">we're going to </span><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:large;font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;display:inline">​arrest​</div><span style="font-size:large"> the people who made a movie</span><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:large;font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;display:inline">​"​</div><span style="font-size:large"> and not </span><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:large;font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;display:inline">​"the movie shouldn't have been made ​and </div><span style="font-size:large">we're going to </span><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:large;font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;display:inline">​arrest​</div><span style="font-size:large"> the people who murdered your son</span><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:large;font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;display:inline">​"​</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:large;font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;display:inline">​.​</div><span style="font-size:large"> </span><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:large;font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;display:inline">​ Unlike the case with Hillary we have numerous recordings of Trump saying with his own pie hole that the libel laws should be strengthened, b</div><span style="font-size:large">ut if she really said that it's a huge </span><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:large;font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;display:inline">​black ​</div><span style="font-size:large">mark against her</span><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:large;font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;display:inline">​, I'd still vote for her over Trump but with less enthusiasm</div><span style="font-size:large">. </span><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:large;font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;display:inline">​The fact that the charge came from Fox News does not add to it's credibility.​</div><span style="font-size:large"> </span></div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex"><div lang="EN-US" link="blue" vlink="purple"><div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14pt;font-family:'Calibri Light',sans-serif"></span></p><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;display:inline">​>​</div>How do we know those 30,000 erased emails didn’t contain yoga and wedding plans, which will land her in prison for life?</div></div></div></blockquote><div> </div><font size="4">I've erased Email<div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;display:inline">​s​</div> <div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;display:inline">​on this very day​</div>, how do you know <div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;display:inline">​they​</div> <div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;display:inline">​didn't​</div> contain information which <div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;display:inline">​would have​</div> <div class="gmail_default" style="display:inline"><font face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif">landed​</font></div> <div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;display:inline">​me​</div> in prison for life<div class="gmail_default" style="display:inline"><font face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif">​? ​I can't prove they weren't love letters to ISIS, but is that the way things will work in the Trump era, if I can't prove I'm innocent I go to prison? </font></div></font><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex"><div lang="EN-US" link="blue" vlink="purple"><div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14pt;font-family:'Calibri Light',sans-serif"></span></p><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;display:inline">​> ​</div>And if so, how do we verify the bad guys don’t already have them? </div></div></div></blockquote><div> </div><div><font size="4"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;display:inline">​I'm sure the bad guys already have them. I'm sure that when she sent 30,000 Email to ISIS containing the complete blueprints for a B1 bomber she'd wanted to mail them from a server with a "</div><a href="http://clintonemail.com">clintonemail.com</a><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;display:inline">​" domaine name.​</div></font></div><div><font size="4"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;display:inline"><br></div></font></div><div><font size="4"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;display:inline"> John K Clark</div></font></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div> </div><div><br></div><div><br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex"><br></blockquote></div><br></div></div>