<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:georgia,serif">Some where in my web site, <a href="http://hotlux.com/angel">hotlux.com/angel</a>, or the Institute for Rewiring the system, is a rather researched article I wrote Against Circumcision, I convinced my daughter and son in law not to do this thing which was put into law by leaders who wanted to limit the strong masculine energy of their citizens. Like the crime of Fluoride, some modern spin makes people think it is just working on teeth disregarding the nervous system damage, (research at Columbia 30 years ago on Quail and later MIT reviewing research a few weeks ago). <br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:georgia,serif">So cutting boys leaves lasting psychic damage because of the real gender damage. Religion took up the push against strong men and pushed the false cleanliness soap opera. I am glad there are others who agree this is a harmful unnecessary painful procedure. I vote to stop genital dis-figuration. <br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:georgia,serif">ciao, ilsa<br></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br clear="all"><div><div class="gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><font color="#ffffff"><font color="#ff0000">Ilsa Bartlett</font></font><div><font color="#ffffff"><font color="#ff0000"><font color="#3333ff">Institute for Rewiring the System</font></font></font><br><a href="http://ilsabartlett.wordpress.com/" target="_blank">http://ilsabartlett.wordpress.com</a><br></div><div><a href="http://www.google.com/profiles/ilsa.bartlett" target="_blank">http://www.google.com/profiles/ilsa.bartlett</a><br><a href="http://www.hotlux.com/angel.htm" target="_blank">www.hotlux.com/angel</a><br><br>"Don't ever get so big or important that you can not hear and listen to every other person."<br>-John Coltrane</div></div></div></div>
<br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sun, Jun 12, 2016 at 11:50 PM, Keith Henson <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:hkeithhenson@gmail.com" target="_blank">hkeithhenson@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">My daughter and son in law decided to circumcise my grandson. I had<br>
no idea this was still being done, my error in not keeping up with<br>
this frankly disgusting subject.<br>
<br>
It was also presented to me after it happened in the worst way<br>
possible. I won't say a lot more except I have a 420 card which helps<br>
a lot with back spasms, but makes a person particularly sensitive to<br>
emotionally upsetting news.<br>
<br>
I would not bring this up here at all, but I am committed to reducing<br>
the incident of this unnecessary "medical" and in my opinion barbaric<br>
procedure of cutting off a most sensitive part of a male's anatomy.<br>
It was done to me as a baby and as I have gotten older, it has caused<br>
me increasingly serious problems. It has (at least for the time<br>
being) destroyed my relation to daughter, son in law, and new grandson<br>
<br>
One of the "justifications" for them doing it, is that my daughter<br>
could not find arguments on the net against circumcision that met her<br>
standards for objective research. She figured that the men who had it<br>
done to them and later thought it was a bad idea were some of the<br>
small number where the circumcision had been botched.<br>
<br>
There are certainly some who fit that classification,<br>
<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Reimer" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Reimer</a><br>
<br>
We have some people here who are good at designing research studies.<br>
I would like to figure out a scientifically valid study. The rate of<br>
circumcisions has fallen to slightly under 80% in the US and (from<br>
hearsay) is around 50% in California. That should be enough to<br>
recruit a significant number of men who were and were not circumcised.<br>
I want valid data that can stand peer review and am willing to spend<br>
thousands of dollars to get it and put it on the net.<br>
<br>
I would be interested in data of how list members feel about what was<br>
or was not done to them, but it's more important to get a good study<br>
design that will produce data that would stand up to peer review.<br>
<br>
Advice on a study or pointers to people who could design a study or<br>
vet the methodology would be highly appreciated.<br>
<br>
Keith<br>
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