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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 2016-07-11 00:57, William Flynn
Wallace wrote:<br>
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<div dir="ltr">Cosmopolitanism is a form of humanism. As a
humanist I feel a connection with all people, not just my tribe
and its beliefs. Which brings up patriotism. Long ago I
encountered the idea that intellectuals were more faithful to
ideas than to places or governments or their tribe. That means,
and studies show, that liberals like me are less patriotic than
conservatives. Haidt seems to regard this as moral weakness.
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Exactly. I find patriotism downright disturbing - when people wave
flags, I half expect them to start a lynch mob. I tend to trust
people who wave around ideas (although I know that sometimes that
makes them even more dangerous). <br>
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Of course, there is also the problem that a lot of cosmopolitans are
actually just a bit western internationalist, as Ross Doutat pointed
out:
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.nytimes.com/2016/07/03/opinion/sunday/the-myth-of-cosmopolitanism.html?_r=0">http://www.nytimes.com/2016/07/03/opinion/sunday/the-myth-of-cosmopolitanism.html?_r=0</a>
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I am deeply annoyed that I recognize myself so much in his
description - I want to be a *proper* cosmopolist rather than just
in the internationalist tribe.<br>
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<div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:"comic sans
ms",sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(0,0,0)">Do I
support my country's government? Depends on what they are up
to.</div>
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<div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:"comic sans
ms",sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(0,0,0)">(People
who are at Kohlberg's stage 5 or 6 can make difficult
citizens, who don't shut up and do what they are told).</div>
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Exactly. And that is why they are necessary for the functioning of
societies. Without them even an open society will stagnate. <br>
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Dr Anders Sandberg
Future of Humanity Institute
Oxford Martin School
Oxford University
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