<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto"><div>On Jul 22, 2016, at 2:30 PM, Anders Sandberg <<a href="mailto:anders@aleph.se">anders@aleph.se</a>> wrote:</div><blockquote type="cite"><div>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 2016-07-22 19:07, Adrian Tymes
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<p dir="ltr">On Jul 22, 2016 8:47 AM, "spike" <<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:spike66@att.net">spike66@att.net</a>>
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> Partial alleviation of the problem: require the constables
to release the video and audio of the encounter between the
drone and the perp, perhaps realtime.</p>
<p dir="ltr">Which raises its own problems, but those are being
dealt with today. See "police body cameras", specifically the
arguments for and against public release of footage from an
encounter - especially if potentially lethal force was involved.<br>
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I think mandating cameras and ensuring the footage cannot easily be
manipulated is a good thing. But note that this is all about
preventing human misbehavior and abuse of power. <br>
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My concern was automation making abuse of power automatable. Again,
automated use of power that can be (publicly) monitored and held
accountable is likely OK overall, but there is a real risk of either
making it untraceable/secret, or scaling it up so that when the use
becomes abuse there is no chance of responding democratically. These
are situations we ought to work to reduce the probability of. </div></blockquote><br><div>I share your worry.</div><div><br></div><div>In some ways, it's like folks believe power can be tamed by giving power ever more power, but watching it closely. But the incentives to watch are fairly low -- even ignoring hiding it automating stuff -- and the amount of data will likely be too high. I believe the safer way is simply not to concentrate the power in the first place (or dissipate what has been concentrated).</div><div><br></div><div>And while we're focusing on policing, this isn't even bringing up -- which is what I think you're getting at -- other agencies within the state who are already operating furtively. The revelations by Snowden and others before and after him doesn't give me much hope here. I supposed the unexpected thing is that power hasn't been more abused -- or maybe it has and we're simply not aware.</div><div><br></div><div><div style="line-height: normal;"><span style="line-height: 20px; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">Regards,</span></div><div style="line-height: normal;"><span style="line-height: 20px; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><br></span></div><div><div style="line-height: normal;"><span style="line-height: 20px; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">Dan</span></div><div style="line-height: normal;"><div style="line-height: normal;"><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"> Sample my latest Kindle book, "The Late Mr. Gurlitt," at:</span></div><a dir="ltr" href="http://mybook.to/Gurlitt" x-apple-data-detectors="true" x-apple-data-detectors-type="link" x-apple-data-detectors-result="1" style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><font color="#000000">http://mybook.to/Gurlitt</font></a></div></div></div></body></html>