<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif">On Thu, Aug 18, 2016 at 12:30 PM, Keith Henson </span><span dir="ltr" style="font-family:arial,sans-serif"><<a href="mailto:hkeithhenson@gmail.com" target="_blank">hkeithhenson@gmail.com</a>></span><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif"> wrote:</span><br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><div class="gmail_quote"><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;display:inline">​> ​</div>Bill, the "better" problem stems from there being two viewpoints, the<div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;display:inline">​ ​</div>individual humans and human genes.<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">​<font size="4">Yes there can certainly be conflicts between the two:</font></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><font size="4"><br></font></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif"><font size="4">Individual humans = the invention of condoms would be a good idea.</font></span></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><font size="4"><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif">Human genes = </span><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif">the invention of condoms would be a bad idea.</span>​</font></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><font size="4"><br></font></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><font size="4">But individual humans ended up getting there way because the genome is far too small for anything but extremely generaL orders and the brain can, like good lawyers, can find loopholes in those orders.  </font></div></div><div><br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex"> <div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;display:inline">​> ​</div>The<div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;display:inline">​ ​</div>accomplishments of the Greeks lie at the root of Western culture.  Our<div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;display:inline">​ ​</div>history would have been very different without the suicidal self<div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;display:inline">​ ​</div>sacrifice of King Leonidas of Sparta and his men.</blockquote><div> </div><div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;display:inline">​</div><font size="4">True but I can't help but wonder whose genes are more common in the present day gene pool, those that were once in King Leonidas<div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;display:inline">​ ​</div>or those there were in the coward who refused to march with him and instead stayed home and had 10 children. And you may be too pessimistic,<div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;display:inline">​ ​</div>Steven Pinker<div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;display:inline">​ made a strong case in his book "​The</div> Better Angels of Our Nature<div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;display:inline">​" that there is less violence now that at any other time in history.​</div></font></div><div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;display:inline"><font size="4"><br></font></div></div><div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;display:inline"><font size="4"> John K Clark</font></div></div><div> </div></div></div></div>