<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto"><div></div><div><br></div><div>On Aug 18, 2016, at 8:41 PM, Keith Henson <<a href="mailto:hkeithhenson@gmail.com">hkeithhenson@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br> </div><blockquote type="cite"><span>The only Dawkins original in that book was was the concept of meme.</span><br><br></blockquote><div>Which takes me back to John's post...</div><div><br></div><div><div><font color="#000000"><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">On Aug 18, 2016, at 4:28 PM, John Clark <<a href="mailto:johnkclark@gmail.com">johnkclark@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br><br></span></font></div><blockquote type="cite"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default"><font color="#000000"><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">On Thu, Aug 18, 2016 at 12:30 PM, Keith Henson <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:hkeithhenson@gmail.com" target="_blank">hkeithhenson@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br></span></font></div><div class="gmail_extra"><div class="gmail_quote"><font color="#000000"><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><br></span></font><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; border-left-color: rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;"><font color="#000000"><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><div class="gmail_default" style="display: inline;">> </div>Bill, the "better" problem stems from there being two viewpoints, the<div class="gmail_default" style="display: inline;"> </div>individual humans and human genes.</span></font></blockquote><div><font color="#000000"><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><br></span></font></div><div><div class="gmail_default"><font color="#000000"><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">Yes there can certainly be conflicts between the two:</span></font></div><div class="gmail_default"><font color="#000000"><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><br></span></font></div><div class="gmail_default"><font color="#000000"><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">Individual humans = the invention of condoms would be a good idea.</span></font></div><div class="gmail_default"><font color="#000000" style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">Human genes = the invention of condoms would be a bad idea.</font></div></div></div></div></div></blockquote><br></div><div>Susan Blackmore, author of The Meme Machine, would suggest there is a third force at work--that of the meme. Of course, one could collapse that under 'individual humans' above, but Blackmore would see that as a disservice I think. </div><div><br></div><div>-Henry</div></body></html>