<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Aug 19, 2016 at 4:20 AM, Rafal Smigrodzki <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:rafal.smigrodzki@gmail.com" target="_blank">rafal.smigrodzki@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:</div><div class="gmail_quote"><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;display:inline">> </div>Edmund Burke<div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;display:inline"> </div>quote:<br>
"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to<div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;display:inline"> </div>do nothing."<br></blockquote><div><font size="4"><br></font></div><div><font size="4"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;display:inline">I agree, so do something, vote for the only person who has a chance of stopping insanity.</div> </font></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex"></blockquote><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;display:inline">> </div>Ms Clinton, who shares many attitudes with Mr Hoxha<div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;display:inline"> [...] </div></blockquote><div><br></div><div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">Clinton is like Hoxha??</div></div><div><br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;display:inline">> </div>It is a perverse triumph of leftoid indoctrination that<div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;display:inline"> [...] </div>I pride myself on being resistant to propaganda.</blockquote><div><br></div><div><font size="4"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;display:inline">Apparently your resistance doesn't extend to propaganda coming from places like Fox News, R</div>ush<div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;display:inline"> </div><font face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif">Limbaugh</font><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;display:inline"> or </div><font face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif">Breitbart<div class="gmail_default" style="display:inline">.</div></font></font></div><div> <br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;display:inline">> </div>Why should I lend legitimacy to a system that gave us a<div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;display:inline"> </div>choice between Clinton and Trump?<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><font size="4">Neither needs you help to become legitimate but both need your vote to become president. You can quote Burk as much as you like but the fact remains that like it or not in 3681 hours either Clinton or Trump will receive the nuclear launch codes and become Commander In Chief, and no critical thinker could claim it makes no difference which one of the two does. </font></div></div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;display:inline">> </div>My interlocutor implied that I am responsible (i.e. could be blamed)<div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;display:inline"> </div>for the Bad Things that would happen if I do not vote. To not-vote is<div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;display:inline"> </div>still to vote, negatively.</blockquote><div><br></div><div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;display:inline"></div><font size="4">Yes, deciding<div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;display:inline"></div> not to vote (or<div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;display:inline"> doing something functionally equivalent like voting for </div>Johnson<div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;display:inline"> or Stein) is an action and the second most morally reprehensible action you could take, beaten only by voting for Trump. If you refuse to vote and Trump wins then you will share in the blame for the catastrophe that will result, </div></font></div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;display:inline">> </div>My answer is that bad things happen when<div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;display:inline"> </div>good people do not hang together, not when they fail to vote.<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><font size="4">You may be a good person and you may be too good to vote for a imperfect candidate, but a nuclear fireball won't care how good you are, it will treat your body exactly the same way it will treat a bad person's body, it will treat both of them like matter.</font></div></div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex"> <div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;display:inline">> </div>if everybody was like me, a<div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;display:inline"> </div>conscientious objector to electoral participation<div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;display:inline"> [...]</div></blockquote><div><font size="4"><br></font></div><div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><font size="4">Then a strongman would become dictator.</font></div></div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex"> <div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;display:inline">> </div>Hitler or Clinton<div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;display:inline"> </div>would have no chance of rising to power.</blockquote><div><br></div><div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;display:inline"><font size="4">In the 1932 election you would have stayed home because you didn't like Hitler or Hindenburg and figured there was no difference between the two. I don't like either one either but I would have figured there was a difference between the two and would have voted for Hindenburg without hesitation. And Hitler lost that election, in later years I would have been proud of myself for helping delay Hitler's rise to power by about a year and given people a little more time to get out of Germany.</font></div></div><div><font size="4"> </font></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex"> <div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;display:inline">> </div>If a lof of people were like me,<div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;display:inline"> </div>anarcho-capitalism<div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;display:inline"> </div>would be a viable strategy.</blockquote><div><br></div><div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;display:inline"></div><font size="4">It's weird<div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;display:inline">. Y</div>ou claim to be in favor of<div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;display:inline"> </div>anarcho-capitalism and yet it's Clinton you compare with Hitler the free trade candidate not Trump the anti-free trade candidate<div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;display:inline">. </div>Trump wants to put restriction on free speech<div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;display:inline">,</div> deport American citizens without trial to Guantanamo<div class="gmail_default" style="display:inline"><font face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif">, and force Apple and everybody else to put backdoors into all electronic products so Big Brother can get around encryption. And it's Trump not Clinton who wants to kill the children of people the government doesn't like and torture them in ways that are "one hell of alot worse than waterboarding " even it we get no usable information from it because "they deserve it". </font></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;display:inline">Clinton wants none of those things but it's Clinton whose the great enemy of freedom and </div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;display:inline"></div>anarcho-capitalism<div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;display:inline"> not Trump. It's weird.</div></font></div><div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;display:inline"><br></div></div><div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;display:inline"><font size="4">Oh and by the way, in addition to the above Trump is also a thin skinned conspiracy theory nutcase who's as crazy as a bedbug, and that might not be desirable in a Commander in Chief who in 153 days could end the world as easily as he now sends a tweet. </font></div></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex">
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<div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;display:inline">> </div>Be good, don't vote for bad.<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;display:inline"><font size="4">Be sane, don't vote for insane.</font></div></div><div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;display:inline"><font size="4"><br></font></div></div><div><font size="4"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;display:inline"> John K Clark</div> </font></div><div><br></div><div> </div></div></div></div>