<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class=""><br class=""><div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class=""><span style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; float: none; display: inline !important;" class="">Date: Fri, 2 Sep 2016 21:19:40 -0400</span><br style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=""><span style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; float: none; display: inline !important;" class="">From: Rafal Smigrodzki <</span><a href="mailto:rafal.smigrodzki@gmail.com" style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class="">rafal.smigrodzki@gmail.com</a><span style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; float: none; display: inline !important;" class="">></span><br style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=""><br style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=""></div></blockquote><div><br class=""></div><div>Oops, you left out this bit Rafal.</div><div><br class=""></div><div>XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX</div><div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class=""><br class=""><span class="" style="float: none; display: inline !important;">Hail the Koch brothers!</span></div></blockquote>XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX</div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class=""><span style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; float: none; display: inline !important;" class="">On Fri, Sep 2, 2016 at 5:48 AM, Omar Rahman <</span><a href="mailto:rahmans@me.com" style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class="">rahmans@me.com</a><span style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; float: none; display: inline !important;" class="">> wrote:</span><br style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=""><blockquote type="cite" style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=""><br class=""><br class="">Seig?<br class=""><br class=""></blockquote><br style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=""><span style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; float: none; display: inline !important;" class="">### For your convenience, the correct spelling of the party greeting is</span><br style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=""><span style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; float: none; display: inline !important;" class="">"Sieg heil!”.</span><br style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=""></div></blockquote><div><br class=""></div><div>Ewe isa reel Enternet speeling Nzia?</div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class=""><br style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=""><span style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; float: none; display: inline !important;" class="">I know I must be doing something right when my minor remarks trigger</span><br style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=""><span style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; float: none; display: inline !important;" class="">formless left-winger ire punctuated by NSDAP references.</span></div></blockquote></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">You conveniently leave out my comments on the nature and identity of the ‘behemoth’ as well. So, maybe, if you leave out the things I said it might seem a bit ‘formless'.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">There are at least two things that the list actually needs to worry about.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">A) The use of the term ‘libertarian’ to provide intellectual cover for blatantly fascist ideas. There is a fair bit of cognitive dissonance in play.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">B) The importance of government, laws, diplomacy, and even spying and war in interactions with post/‘whateverlabel'/super-human entities.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Only by joining together do we have any hope of securing the continuity of environmental conditions favourable to our existence and success. Koch Industries has its own interests, it doesn’t need to breath clean air or drink unpolluted water so these things are unacceptable costs from its viewpoint.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">In another thread Rafal says in response to Kieth Henson:</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""></div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">Date: Sat, 3 Sep 2016 20:45:48 -0400<br class="">From: Rafal Smigrodzki <<a href="mailto:rafal.smigrodzki@gmail.com" class="">rafal.smigrodzki@gmail.com</a>><br class="">Subject: Re: [ExI] voting?<br class=""><br class="">Non voter, vociferously so.</div></blockquote><div class=""><br class=""></div>You exist in a country with a voting system without mandatory voting. Staying at home IS one of the choices. <br class=""><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">If you think your political opinions and speech are enough influence then you are just voting indirectly.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">The rhetoric coming out of the Trump/Breitbart/Koch/Ailes side of things with talk of ‘rigged elections’, ‘second amendment solutions' to Hillary and/or her SCOTUS picks, the proposed targeting of many minorities for mass deportation and religious discrimination, the proposal of war crimes as standard military procedure, etc. etc. etc. are all far too close to actual historical Nazis. We are just a toothbrush moustache away from horror...</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">To the people on the list who are horrified by Trump and worried about Hillary:</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>1)<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>Vote.</div><div class=""><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>2)<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>Split your ballot. </div><div class=""><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>3)<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>Top of ticket: Hillary</div><div class=""><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>(Vote your conscience: effectively it is a binary choice and the Trump side is monstrous.)</div><div class=""><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>4)<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>Rest of ticket: Vote your conscience.</div><div class=""><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>(Vote your conscience: there is a broad plurality of choices here. I would suggest voting in third party candidates so that actual politics can take place in Congress. The simple 'tyranny of the majority’ that Plato worried about must end in Congress.)</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Please just vote your conscience in the most pragmatic manner possible. Even you Rafal.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Regards,</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Omar</div><div class=""><br class=""></div></body></html>