<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:"comic sans ms",sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><div class="gmail_extra" style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:27.2px">The Libertarians have had that problem all along. The problem is that nobody takes "third" parties seriously, so serious candidates don't run as Libertarians. Classic chicken/egg.<span class="gmail-HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"><br><br></font></span></div><span class="gmail-HOEnZb" style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:27.2px"><font color="#888888"><div class="gmail_extra">-Dave</div><div class="gmail_extra"><br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:"comic sans ms",sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(0,0,0)">Or maybe Catch 22</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:"comic sans ms",sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:"comic sans ms",sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(0,0,0)">Esteemed political philosopher Herr Professor Wallace here at your service.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:"comic sans ms",sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:"comic sans ms",sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(0,0,0)">I think the problem with the Libertarians is that, as far as I know and have heard, they only run for big offices. You build a party from the ground up, meaning start small, establish some validity and reputation for honesty and so on. Start local and work up from there. </div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:"comic sans ms",sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:"comic sans ms",sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(0,0,0)">I cannot understand the purpose of running for offices you clearly are not going to win. It establishes you as a loser, an also-ran, maybe even kind of an oddball. In other words, poor psychology.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:"comic sans ms",sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:"comic sans ms",sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(0,0,0)">Thus you will likely need a new name, which no doubt will be supplied by Spike, and look like this:</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:"comic sans ms",sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:"comic sans ms",sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(0,0,0)">The Humanitarian Freedom Liberty Extropy Posthuman Centrist Party</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:"comic sans ms",sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:"comic sans ms",sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(0,0,0)">bill w</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:"comic sans ms",sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><br></div><br></div></font></span></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Sep 29, 2016 at 4:34 PM, John Clark <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:johnkclark@gmail.com" target="_blank">johnkclark@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif">On Thu, Sep 29, 2016 at 2:42 PM, spike </span><span dir="ltr" style="font-family:arial,sans-serif"><<a href="mailto:spike66@att.net" target="_blank">spike66@att.net</a>></span><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif"> wrot</span><div style="display:inline">e:</div></div><span class=""><div class="gmail_extra"><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex"><div lang="EN-US"><span><blockquote style="border-style:none none none solid;border-top-width:initial;border-right-width:initial;border-bottom-width:initial;border-top-color:initial;border-right-color:initial;border-bottom-color:initial;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-width:1pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex"><span style="font-size:14pt;font-family:calibri,sans-serif">>>…</span><span style="font-size:14pt;font-family:calibri,sans-serif">If these guys can balance the budget</span></blockquote></blockquote></span></div></blockquote></div></div><blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex" class="gmail_quote"><div class="gmail_extra"><div class="gmail_quote"><div lang="EN-US"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex">>…Like Bill Clinton did? </blockquote></div></div></div></blockquote></span><div class="gmail_extra"><div class="gmail_quote"><span class=""><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex"><div lang="EN-US"><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14pt;font-family:calibri,sans-serif"><u></u> <u></u></span></p>> Like Newt Gingrich did? Actually neither of them did: it was accounting tricks. They robbed Social Security by moving welfare cases to SS disability.</div></blockquote><div><br></div></span><div><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;display:inline"><font size="4">That is incorrect, even if you ignore Social Security there was <b>STILL</b> a surplus </font></div><font size="4"><span style="color:rgb(68,68,68);font-family:'droid serif',serif;line-height:21.98px">of $1.9 billion in 1999 and $86.4 billion in 2000<div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;display:inline">, Clinton's</div></span> <div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;display:inline">last year.</div></font></div><div><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;display:inline"><br></div></div><div><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;display:inline"><a href="http://www.factcheck.org/2008/02/the-budget-and-deficit-under-clinton/" target="_blank">http://www.factcheck.org/2008/<wbr>02/the-budget-and-deficit-<wbr>under-clinton/</a></div></div><span class=""><span style="font-family:calibri,sans-serif;font-size:14pt"> </span><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex"><div lang="EN-US"><div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex"><span style="font-size:14pt;font-family:calibri,sans-serif">><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;display:inline">> </div>…Face it Spike, thanks to Johnson the Libertarians are getting the reputation as the silly party, not to be confused with the Republicans who now will forever be known as the stupid party. </span></blockquote></div><p class="MsoNormal"><br></p><div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex"><span style="font-size:14pt;font-family:calibri,sans-serif"><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;display:inline">></div></span>John what kind of reputation do you think Hilliary has given her party? </blockquote></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div></span><div><div><font face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif" size="4">The Democratic party will have s reputation for nomination somebody knowing what Aleppo is and being able to name a foreign leader, several in fact.</font></div></div><span class=""><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex"><div lang="EN-US"><div><div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex"><span style="font-size:14pt;font-family:calibri,sans-serif"><u></u></span></blockquote><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex"><span style="font-family:calibri,sans-serif;font-size:14pt">><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;display:inline">> </div>The budget deficit is not a pressing issue, although a case could be made that it's too small</span></blockquote></div></div></div></blockquote><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex"> </blockquote></span><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex"><div lang="EN-US"><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;display:inline">> </div><span class="">What happens when interest rates go back up? With a debt this size, we will devour our entire revenue just paying interest. This will not be good.</span></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;display:inline"><font size="4">If the government is ever going to borrow money, as its been doing nearly every year since 1835, then now is certainly the time to do it when interest rates are almost zero.</font></div><font size="4"> <div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;display:inline"></div></font></div><div><font size="4"><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;display:inline"><br></div></font></div><div><font size="4"><div style="display:inline"><font face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif"> John K Clark</font></div></font></div><div><font size="4"><br></font></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex"><div lang="EN-US"><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14pt;font-family:calibri,sans-serif"><span><font color="#888888"><u></u><u></u></font></span></span></p><span><font color="#888888"><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14pt;font-family:calibri,sans-serif"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14pt;font-family:calibri,sans-serif">spike<u></u><u></u></span></p></font></span></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14pt;font-family:calibri,sans-serif"> <u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:13.5pt"> </span><u></u><u></u></p></div></div><br>______________________________<wbr>_________________<br>
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