<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif">On Sun, Nov 20, 2016 at 6:15 PM, BillK </span><span dir="ltr" style="font-family:arial,sans-serif"><<a href="mailto:pharos@gmail.com" target="_blank">pharos@gmail.com</a>></span><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif"> wrote:</span><br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex"></blockquote><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex"></blockquote><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;display:inline">> </div>An excellent source for philosophical musings is the Stanford<div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;display:inline"> </div>Encyclopedia of Philosophy.<br>
<<a href="http://plato.stanford.edu/index.html" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://plato.stanford.edu/<wbr>index.html</a>><br>
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The freewill chapter is<br>
<<a href="http://plato.stanford.edu/entries/freewill/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://plato.stanford.edu/<wbr>entries/freewill/</a>><br>
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“Free Will” is a philosophical term of art for a particular sort of<br>
capacity of rational agents to choose a course of action from among<br>
various alternatives.</blockquote><div><br></div><div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><font size="4">If the agent is indeed rational then there were reasons, causes, why he chose X and not Y. If there were no reason for choosing X and not Y then he was irrational and his behavior random. There are only 2 possibilities, you did what you did for a reason or you did what you did for no reason. You're either a <span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif">roulette wheel or a</span><div class="gmail_default" style="display:inline"> c</div><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif">uckoo clock.</span></font></div></div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;display:inline">> </div>Indeed, much of the debate about free will centers<div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;display:inline"> </div>around whether we human beings have it,</blockquote><div><br></div><div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;display:inline"><font size="4">Yes there are many debates among philosophers on the subject, some say we have "free will" others say we do not have "free will". I say both sides quite literally don't know what they're talking about. Tell me what "free will" means or give me an example to show me what "free will" means and then I'll be willing to ponder the question of if human beings have this property or not; but until then it's just gibberish.</font></div><font size="4"> <div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;display:inline">Free will is an idea so bad it's not even wrong.</div></font></div><div><font size="4"><br></font></div><div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><font size="4"> John K Clark</font></div><br></div><div><br></div><div> </div></div></div></div>