<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Dec 5, 2016 at 11:53 PM, Mike Dougherty <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:msd001@gmail.com" target="_blank">msd001@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:</div><div class="gmail_quote"><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"></blockquote><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex"></blockquote><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex"><span class="">><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;display:inline">> </div> <font size="4">Well yes, change one thing and not the other and 2 identical things are no</font></span><font size="4"><span class=""> longer identical. But it works both ways, rearranging the territory would<div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;display:inline"> </div></span><span class="">not affect the map. It seems to me that they both behave the same way to<br></span><span class="">perturbations, so what's the difference between them?</span></font></blockquote><span class="">
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</span><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;display:inline">> </div>You've made this point consistently for a long time. Is this the same<br>
idea as <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Identity_of_indiscernibles" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/<wbr>Identity_of_indiscernibles</a>?<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div><font size="4"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;display:inline">Yes.</div> <div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;display:inline">It was Leibniz who first got the idea, and he died in 1716.</div></font></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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<div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;display:inline">> </div>I feel like this question is a leading to an answer that nobody ever<div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;display:inline"> </div>gives. What is the answer?<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><font size="4">42 is the ultimate answer but I don't know what the ultimate question is.</font></div></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><font size="4"><br></font></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><font size="4"> John K Clark</font></div></div><br></div></div>