<div dir="ltr"><br><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Dec 12, 2016 at 3:56 PM, Stathis Papaioannou <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:stathisp@gmail.com" target="_blank">stathisp@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_extra"><div class="gmail_quote"><span class=""><div><br></div></span><div>In a multiverse any structure, including a brain, will be duplicated to an arbitrary level of precision. </div></div></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>### The argument I build is not designed to rely on MWI. I am asking whether digital zombies are possible, using identity of indiscernibles as a part of the argument.</div><div><br></div><div>-------------------------------</div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_extra"><div class="gmail_quote"><div>Moreover, the Bekenstein bound puts an upper limit on the amount of information that can be contained in a given volume, so both biological brains and digital computers can only have a finite number of thoughts.</div></div></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>### Indeed, this could be an important issue. If our analog brains are in fact just digital brains at higher resolution, then there may not be a binary distinction between them but it could be a continuum. Or there might be no real difference but then we still have the counterintuitive situation of having to treat identical mathematical objects as discernible entities.</div><div><br></div><div>QM gurus are hereby invited to say more about the dimensionality of the QM state space - does it allow for an infinite number of interactions as time goes to infinity? Does a particle in QM become entangled with an infinity of other particles? Does an analog brain's interaction with the world require infinite amounts of information to be specified as time progresses?</div><div><br></div><div>I know, you actually have the opposite intuition, treating even physically distinct minds as indiscernible, and you treat multiple similar but physically separate minds as equal in value to a single mind. For me this is a very surprising intuition.<br></div><div>-------------------------------</div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_extra"><div class="gmail_quote"><span class=""><div><br></div></span><div>Yes, it's the same for them so it's the same for me. If the copies start to diverge, they will then be different individuals with their own distinct suffering.</div></div></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>### If you have twin brothers, is torturing both only as bad as torturing one?</div><div><br></div><div>Rafal</div></div>
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