<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sun, Feb 5, 2017 at 2:39 PM, spike <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:spike66@att.net" target="_blank">spike66@att.net</a>></span> wrote:<div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(0,0,0);display:inline" class="gmail_default"><span style="font-size:14pt;font-family:"calibri",sans-serif"><br><br>Even if they are on your side, power grabbers are really on their own side.<span class="gmail-HOEnZb"></span></span><span class="gmail-HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14pt;font-family:"calibri",sans-serif"> </span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14pt;font-family:"calibri",sans-serif">spike</span></p></font></span></div><br><br><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(0,0,0)" class="gmail_default">Yes, well, try to find someone in the beltway that isn't. He/she just needs to follow our agenda to get our contributions and I can't say that I care how big his ego is. Big ego is attractive to men and women alike. bill w<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div lang="EN-US"><div class="gmail-m_1912906741828161696WordSection1"><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:"calibri",sans-serif"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:"calibri",sans-serif"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:"calibri",sans-serif">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:"calibri",sans-serif"> extropy-chat [mailto:<a href="mailto:extropy-chat-bounces@lists.extropy.org" target="_blank">extropy-chat-bounces@<wbr>lists.extropy.org</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>William Flynn Wallace<br><b>Sent:</b> Sunday, February 05, 2017 10:10 AM<span class="gmail-"><br><b>To:</b> ExI chat list <<a href="mailto:extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org" target="_blank">extropy-chat@lists.extropy.<wbr>org</a>><br></span><b>Subject:</b> Re: [ExI] Huxley or Orwell - who got it right?<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><div><div><span class="gmail-"><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14pt;font-family:"calibri",sans-serif">>…<span style="color:black">Spike - you want others to read 1984 - what for? What are they going to do after reading it?</span> <span style="color:black">bill w</span><u></u><u></u></span></p><div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14pt;font-family:"calibri",sans-serif;color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p></div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14pt;font-family:"calibri",sans-serif;color:black">On Sun, Feb 5, 2017 at 11:41 AM, spike <<a href="mailto:spike66@att.net" target="_blank">spike66@att.net</a>><u></u><u></u></span></p></div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14pt;font-family:"calibri",sans-serif">They will read and watch for power grabbers in government, then oppose them at every step.:<u></u><u></u></span></p></span><div><span class="gmail-"><blockquote style="border-width:medium medium medium 1pt;border-style:none none none solid;border-color:-moz-use-text-color -moz-use-text-color -moz-use-text-color rgb(204,204,204);padding:0in 0in 0in 6pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in"><div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14pt;font-family:"calibri",sans-serif"><u></u> <u></u></span></p></div><div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14pt;font-family:"calibri",sans-serif;color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14pt;font-family:"calibri",sans-serif;color:black"></span><span style="font-size:14pt;font-family:"calibri",sans-serif">>…<span style="color:black">But Spike, that has been going on since somebody picked up the first club and bashed an opponent. Is not every person in gov. a power grabber or attached to one so that some might trickle down?<u></u><u></u></span></span></p></div></div></div></div></blockquote></span><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14pt;font-family:"calibri",sans-serif"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12pt"><span style="font-size:14pt;font-family:"calibri",sans-serif;color:black"></span><span style="font-size:14pt;font-family:"calibri",sans-serif">So we have a legal system to control that urge to bash as much as possible.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12pt"><span style="font-size:14pt;font-family:"calibri",sans-serif">>…<span style="color:black">Now I can see teaching these things to youngsters, making them pessimistic and cynical before their times</span>…<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12pt"><span style="font-size:14pt;font-family:"calibri",sans-serif">Nay for an understanding power lust makes them optimistic and cynical. It is never before their time to be optimistic and cynical. Teach the young at every opportunity what power does to people.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12pt"><span style="font-size:14pt;font-family:"calibri",sans-serif">>…<span style="color:black">Why shouldn't they see reality after a childhood of fantasy and being kept in a closet, so to speak? But to anyone over 30, power grabbing is old hat. No?</span><u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12pt"><span style="font-size:14pt;font-family:"calibri",sans-serif">No. Old hat or otherwise, power grabbing is a bad thing.<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14pt;font-family:"calibri",sans-serif">>…<span style="color:black">I suggest that what we want is power grabbers who support us and our issues. The more power they have, the better for us. Right?</span> <span style="color:black">bill w</span><u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14pt;font-family:"calibri",sans-serif"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14pt;font-family:"calibri",sans-serif">On the contrary. Distributed power is the better for us. Distributed power takes advantage of distributed smartness and goodness in people rather than contributes to the base passions of the power grabbers. Power grabbers are already corrupt when they get power; they have a head start on those who go in honest but are corrupted by the morally corrosive influence of power. Even if they are on your side, power grabbers are really on their own side.<span class="gmail-HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"><u></u><u></u></font></span></span></p><span class="gmail-HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14pt;font-family:"calibri",sans-serif"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14pt;font-family:"calibri",sans-serif">spike<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14pt;font-family:"calibri",sans-serif"><u></u> <u></u></span></p></font></span></div></div></div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p></div></div></div></div><br>______________________________<wbr>_________________<br>
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