<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:#000000">I have to confess that The<i> Tao is Silent</i> has sit on my bookshelf for way too many years (okay, decades), partly unread. But didn't he contribute to <i>The Mind's I?</i> (Which I definitely read all the way through.) </div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:#000000"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:#000000">Sorry to hear that he met his extinction without taking the sensible option of cryonics. It's not unlikely (even today) that he had heard nothing about it, other than possibly in fiction. </div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:#000000"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:#000000">Two comments, one a bit crusty: 97 is a pretty good age to die? I find that hard to imagine. Possibly it was true for R.M. (although what I read of his suggests otherwise). 97 is ridiculously young to die, assuming he wanted to keep learning and exploring (assuming a rejuvenated brain and restored cognitive energy.) </div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:#000000"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:#000000">My other comment (based on very old and unreliable memories) is that, although I find it hard to take Taoism and its pre-scientific speculations especially seriously, Smullyan took it in an especially interesting direction. Most self-advertised combinations of "Western and Eastern" thought seem to be close to worthless. [Mention Deepak Chopra and I may feel compelled to "school you" in the harshest way possible. :) ] Based on my sadly-faded memories, Smullyan was surely an exception. </div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:#000000"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:#000000">I hate to any mind with potential go to waste. Especially exceptional ones. </div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:#000000"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:#000000">--Max</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:#000000"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:#000000"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:#000000"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:#000000"><br></div><div class="gmail_quote">---------- Forwarded message ----------<br>From: <b class="gmail_sendername">spike</b> <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:spike66@att.net">spike66@att.net</a>></span><br>Date: Sun, Feb 12, 2017 at 11:52 AM<br>Subject: Re: [ExI] Raymond Smullyan<br>To: ExI chat list <<a href="mailto:extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org">extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org</a>><br><br><br><div lang="EN-US" link="#0563C1" vlink="#954F72"><div class="m_-5563152679589391434WordSection1"><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> extropy-chat [mailto:<a href="mailto:extropy-chat-bounces@lists.extropy.org" target="_blank">extropy-chat-bounces@<wbr>lists.extropy.org</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>John Clark<br><b>Sent:</b> Sunday, February 12, 2017 9:13 AM<br><b>To:</b> ExI chat list <<a href="mailto:extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org" target="_blank">extropy-chat@lists.extropy.<wbr>org</a>><br><b>Subject:</b> [ExI] Raymond Smullyan<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><div><div><div class="h5"><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:13.5pt">I was sorry to hear that the great logician Raymond Smullyan died on February 6 at the age of 97. I <u></u><u></u></span></p><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">​first ​<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:13.5pt">read  <u></u><u></u></span></p><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">​"​<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:13.5pt">The tao is silent<u></u><u></u></span></p><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">​" many years ago and it is still one of my favorite books. ​<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif"><u></u> <u></u></span></p></div></div></div></div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif"> John K Clark<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Doh damn.  I really liked Tau is Silent as well. <u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">97 is pretty good in any case.  I didn’t even know he was still alive until I heard he wasn’t.<span class="HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"><u></u><u></u></font></span></span></p><span class="HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">spike<u></u><u></u></span></p></font></span></div></div></div></div></div><br>______________________________<wbr>_________________<br>
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