<div dir="ltr"><span class="gmail-im" style="font-size:12.8px">> On Mar 9, 2017, Henry Rivera wrote:<br>><br>>> The point I was making is that the implausible idea that evolution chanced upon the only way to produce consciousness leads to the even more implausible idea that consciousness is independent of brain function.<br><br></span><span style="font-size:12.8px">> If it turns out you are incorrect, it might just suggest evolution or at least evolution within some parameters was not chance after all. Everything we think we knew might get turned upside down once we understand consciousness. Or not I concede.</span><br><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On 10 March 2017 at 10:20, Henry Rivera <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:hrivera@alumni.virginia.edu" target="_blank">hrivera@alumni.virginia.edu</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><span class=""><br>
> On Mar 9, 2017, at 5:57 PM, Stathis Papaioannou <<a href="mailto:stathisp@gmail.com">stathisp@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
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> The point I was making is that the implausible idea that evolution chanced upon the only way to produce consciousness leads to the even more implausible idea that consciousness is independent of brain function.<br>
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</span>If it turns out you are incorrect, it might just suggest evolution or at least evolution within some parameters was not chance after all. Everything we think we knew might get turned upside down once we understand consciousness. Or not I concede.<br>
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</div></div></blockquote></div><br><br clear="all"><div><br></div>-- <br><div class="gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature">Stathis Papaioannou</div>
</div><div><span style="font-size:12.8px"><br></span></div><div><span style="font-size:12.8px">It is possible that Cartesian dualism is true: that the brain determines behaviour while consciousness occurs in another, spiritual realm, and it just a contingent fact that behaviour and consciousness are aligned. However, there is no evidence for it and no reason to believe it.</span></div></div>