<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif">On Fri, Mar 10, 2017 at 2:59 PM, Brent Allsop </span><span dir="ltr" style="font-family:arial,sans-serif"><<a href="mailto:brent.allsop@gmail.com" target="_blank">brent.allsop@gmail.com</a>></span><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif"> wrote:</span><br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr">
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:0.0001pt"></p><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;display:inline">> </div>A critical
part of consciousness intelligence is the ability to be simultaneously aware of
lots of diverse qualitative experiences.<span> </span><p></p></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div><font size="4"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;display:inline">Computers have had multiprocessors for years.</div> </font></div><div> <br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:0.0001pt"><span> </span></p><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;display:inline">> </div>Not only is the way we consciously do it,<p></p></div></blockquote><div><font size="4"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;display:inline">I hate to keep harping on this but it's important, what's with this "we" business? The hypothesis that John K Clark is the only conscious being in the universe is 100% consistent with every scrap of evidence I have at my disposal. </div> <br></font></div><div> <br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:0.0001pt"></p><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;display:inline">> </div>by
being aware of all of it at once, much more efficient, it’s easy to see why
evolution used this much more efficiently intelligent system<p></p></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div><font size="4"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;display:inline">Then it would be easier to make a intelligent conscious </div> <div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;display:inline">computer than a intelligent non-conscious computer. So if you see a computer or anything else (such as one of your fellow human beings) behaving intelligently your default assumption should be that person or thing is conscious. </div></font></div><div> <br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:0.0001pt"> </p><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;display:inline">> </div>a minimal example of this kind of efficiently powerfully
intelligent qualitative conscious functionally is something that is doing a
redness function, something that is doing a greenness function, and something
that is able to functionally bind these two (and lots of other stuff) so we can
be aware of both of them at the same time.<span> </span><p></p></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><font size="4">If the ability to distinguish between red and green (consciously or unconsciously) does not effect behavior then it is irreverent as far as Evolution is concerned how efficiently it functions. So if Darwin was right how did you get the ability to distinguish between red and green? And if it does effect behavior then the Turing Test works for consciousness and not just for intelligence. </font></div></div><div><span style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"> </span><br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:0.0001pt"></p><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;display:inline">> </div>I predict,<div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;display:inline"> </div>you will still
be able to “eff the ineffable” by binding two brains together in a kind of meta
conscious system<p></p><p></p></div></blockquote><div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:large;font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;display:inline">When dealing with matters of consciousness person pronouns can mask a lot of logical errors. Who exactly is the referent of the pronoun "you" in the above?</div><span style="font-size:large"> </span><br></div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:0.0001pt"> </p><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;display:inline">> </div>that is bound together (similar to the way your right and left
hemispheres are bound) that can both fully experience “Johns redness”, and “Brent’s
redness” in the same kind of bound together way so you can qualitatively completely
compare the two,<p></p></div></blockquote><div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;display:inline"><font size="4">John Clark will never know what red is like for </font></div><font size="4">Brent Allsop<div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;display:inline">, and </div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;display:inline"> </div>Brent Allsop<div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;display:inline"> will never know what red is like for John Clark, and John Allsop wouldn't ever know what red is like for either of us, all that fellow would know is what red is like for John Allsop.</div></font></div><div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;display:inline"><font size="4"><br></font></div></div><div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;display:inline"><font size="4"> John K Clark</font></div></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div></div></div></div>