<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(0,0,0)">spike wrote - </div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:calibri,sans-serif;font-size:14.6667px">For the price of privacy, humanity could have access to more medically-useful DNA/disease correlations.</span><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:calibri,sans-serif;font-size:14.6667px"><br></span></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:calibri,sans-serif;font-size:14.6667px">-----------</span></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:calibri,sans-serif;font-size:14.6667px">Do you all think it's fair that a person has to give up his DNA in order to get health insurance, or pay a big premium if he doesn't? Because I think that's where it is headed.</span></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:calibri,sans-serif;font-size:14.6667px"><br></span></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:calibri,sans-serif;font-size:14.6667px">Example - a person shows up with a double dose of the dominant gene for Huntingdon's chorea. Prognosis - death before 50 (I am guessing here). No company wants this person, and yet he may have other health issues that need insuring before he dies later on.</span></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:calibri,sans-serif;font-size:14.6667px"><br></span></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:calibri,sans-serif;font-size:14.6667px">I have lived with two cancers now for about 20 years and my prognosis is still good, yet no insurance company would have give me insurance (I get mine through teacher's retirement, so they had no choice). And I have not been able to get life insurance, not that I really wanted any.</span></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:calibri,sans-serif;font-size:14.6667px"><br></span></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:calibri,sans-serif;font-size:14.6667px">Earlier I was mocked a bit for belittling the Big Data problem which results for me in too many garden catalogs. This one goes way beyond personalized ads and spam, right? And way beyond someone having your recorded phone conversations etc.</span></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:calibri,sans-serif;font-size:14.6667px"><br></span></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:calibri,sans-serif;font-size:14.6667px">Another point of concern: if you don't voluntarily share your DNA tests, it's very easy to steal my DNA or anyone's.</span></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:calibri,sans-serif;font-size:14.6667px"><br></span></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:calibri,sans-serif;font-size:14.6667px">bill w</span></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Mar 15, 2017 at 5:28 PM, spike <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:spike66@att.net" target="_blank">spike66@att.net</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div lang="EN-US" link="blue" vlink="purple"><div class="m_-3409258411726912925WordSection1"><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">>… Behalf Of </span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">William Flynn Wallace<br><b>Subject:</b> [ExI] the ultimate invasion of privacy?<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black"><a href="https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/house-republicans-would-let-employers-demand-workers-rsquo-genetic-test-results/?WT.mc_id=SA_WR_20170315" target="_blank">https://www.<wbr>scientificamerican.com/<wbr>article/house-republicans-<wbr>would-let-employers-demand-<wbr>workers-rsquo-genetic-test-<wbr>results/?WT.mc_id=SA_WR_<wbr>20170315</a></span><u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">>…<span style="color:black">bill w</span><u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">I can imagine an alternative deal whereby a health insurance company would offer a discount in exchange for a spit sample.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Scenario: insurance company with millions of clients with DNA is able to do correlation studies, do a pumped-up version of what 23&Me attempted and mostly failed to do. 23&Me relied on participant surveys. This is some of the least reliable data sets imaginable: most patients don’t know what is wrong with them. Now if the insurance companies had this info, they know what is wrong with the patients because they pay the medical bills. For the price of privacy, humanity could have access to more medically-useful DNA/disease correlations.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">In exchange, perhaps we could require the insurance companies to make the knowledge public domain?<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Alternative: a volunteer identity-obscured data pool whereby participants would give their medical records and DNA to the whole scientific world, knowing that it might involve personal sacrifices.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Alternative: a volunteer identity-included public domain DNA and medical records database? We could perhaps get volunteers among the elderly who have little to lose and much to give?<span class="HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"><u></u><u></u></font></span></span></p><span class="HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">spike<u></u><u></u></span></p></font></span></div></div></div></div><br>______________________________<wbr>_________________<br>
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