<div dir="ltr">It's conquer or to be conquered, on a cosmic scale. This is no joke, and no funny matter.<div><br></div><div>The fairy tales told by Carl Sagan and many others are total crap, which has nothing to do with reality.</div><div><br></div><div>Our best hope is, that we are the first and early enough. As they say - take the red pill!<br><div><br></div><div><br><div><br></div><div><br></div></div></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sun, May 21, 2017 at 7:16 PM, John Clark <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:johnkclark@gmail.com" target="_blank">johnkclark@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif">On Sun, May 21, 2017 at 12:28 PM, BillK </span><span dir="ltr" style="font-family:arial,sans-serif"><<a href="mailto:pharos@gmail.com" target="_blank">pharos@gmail.com</a>></span><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif"> wrote:</span><br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><div class="gmail_quote"><br></div><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;display:inline">> </div>Space is BIG.</blockquote><div><br></div><div><font size="4"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;display:inline">Well, there does seem to be a awful lot of it.</div> </font></div><span class=""><div><br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;display:inline">> </div>There would be no reason for them to decide to send a<div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;display:inline"> </div>probe specifically to us. If they decided to send probes to every star<div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;display:inline"> </div>within 1500 light years, that would be an impossibly huge energy<div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;display:inline"> </div>expenditure.<br></blockquote><div><br></div></span><div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;display:inline"></div><font size="4">Not so. A Von Neumann probe would only weigh a few ounces, perhaps less, and they'd only have to send one probe to one star. Even if that probe moved no faster than our Voyager spacecraft (a ridiculously conservative estimate I think) a probe could be in every star system in the Galaxy in just a blink of an eye, about 50 million years, and the Milky<div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;display:inline"> </div>Way<div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;display:inline"> </div>would be transformed into a structure obviously built by intelligence. It wouldn't be anything subtle <div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;display:inline">s</div>o why don't we see that?<br><br>John K Clark</font></div><div> </div></div></div></div>
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