<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif">On Sun, May 21, 2017 at 10:51 AM, Stuart LaForge </span><span dir="ltr" style="font-family:arial,sans-serif"><<a href="mailto:avant@sollegro.com" target="_blank">avant@sollegro.com</a>></span><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif"> wrote:</span><br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><div class="gmail_quote"><div> <br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;display:inline">​> ​</div>What if they don't have their exhaust pointed along the<div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;display:inline">​ </div>galactic plane. That seems to make sense from an interplanetary security<div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;display:inline">​ </div>stand point.<br></blockquote><div><br></div><font size="4">If Tabby ET is trying to hide he's not doing a very good job because we're talking about him, but why would he<div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;display:inline">​ </div>even<div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;display:inline">​ </div>try to hide? What could Tabby have that another alien civilization wants to steal that they couldn't get on their own far far easier? </font><br></div><div class="gmail_quote"> <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;display:inline">​> ​</div>Furthermore, like you mentioned, perhaps they have some ingenious<div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;display:inline">​ ​</div><br>
technology that enables them to harness heat energy too. If their<br>
thermodynamic efficiency approached 1.0 then<div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;display:inline">​ </div></blockquote><div><br></div><font size="4">Then ET has managed to break the second law of thermodynamics. If you asked me which law of physics that we currently believe to true I am most confident Mr. Jupiter Brain would still say is true in the year million I'd say the second law of thermodynamics<div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;display:inline">​ </div>.It's not obviously absurd that the law of conservation of mass or energy or momentum or electrical charge could turn out to be untrue someday, but if the second law is wrong then it would mean there are more ways to be organized than disorganized,<div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;display:inline">​ </div>it would mean there are more ways<div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;display:inline">​ </div><div class="gmail_default" style="display:inline">small</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;display:inline">​ </div>amount of information<div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;display:inline">​ </div>can describe something than ways a <div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;display:inline">​large​</div> amount of information can,<div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;display:inline">​ </div>and that, unlike a violation of the conservation laws,<div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;display:inline">​ </div>isn't just unphysical it's<div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;display:inline">​ </div>logically paradoxical.</font><div><span style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;display:inline"><br></div></span></div><div><div class="gmail_default" style="display:inline"><font face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif"><font size="4">And besides, ​if you're going to invoke fundamental new physics to explain a puzzling phenomena what's the point of ET? Get rid of the useless middle man! </font>   </font></div></div><div><div class="gmail_default" style="display:inline"><font face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif"><br></font></div></div><div><div class="gmail_default" style="display:inline"><font face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif" size="4"> John K Clark </font></div></div><div><span style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><br></span></div><div><span style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><br></span></div><div><br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;display:inline">​</div></blockquote><div><br></div><div> </div><div><br></div><div><br></div></div></div></div>