<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:#000000"><br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, May 29, 2017 at 10:44 AM, John Clark <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:johnkclark@gmail.com" target="_blank">johnkclark@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif">On Sun, May 28, 2017 at 7:49 PM, William Flynn Wallace </span><span dir="ltr" style="font-family:arial,sans-serif"><<a href="mailto:foozler83@gmail.com" target="_blank">foozler83@gmail.com</a>></span><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif"> wrote:</span></div><div class="gmail_extra"><div class="gmail_quote"><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;display:inline">> </div>Tell me we are not going to have an infinite regress here. Now we have to define intelligent behavior.</div></blockquote><div><br></div><div><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;display:inline"><font size="4">You're <b>ALWAYS</b> going to have </font></div><font size="4">infinite regress<div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;display:inline"> if you insist on sticking with definitions. Definitions are made of words, and all those words have their own definitions also made of words, and on and on we go for infinity. That's why I say examples are far FAR more important than definitions;</div> intelligent behavior <div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;display:inline">is what Einstein did and rocks didn't.</div></font></div><div><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;display:inline"><font size="4"><br></font></div></div><div><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;display:inline"><font size="4"> John K Clark</font></div></div></div></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(0,0,0)">All very true, but the only example you will give is yourself for consciousness. Solipsistic. We need examples that can be measured - ain't science otherwise.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(0,0,0)">bill w</div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_extra"><div class="gmail_quote"><div><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;display:inline"><br></div></div><div><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;display:inline"><br></div></div><div><br></div><div><br></div></div></div></div>
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