<div dir="ltr">I think we should work on the vet problem by ending the wars we're fighting, closing bases on foreign soil, drastically cutting the military budget, and improving the VA.<div><br></div><div>But that won't happen, obviously.</div><div><br></div><div>-Dave</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Jun 23, 2017 at 3:32 PM, Mike Dougherty <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:msd001@gmail.com" target="_blank">msd001@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><span class=""><div class="gmail_extra"><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Jun 21, 2017 at 6:19 PM, William Flynn Wallace <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:foozler83@gmail.com" target="_blank">foozler83@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:#000000">It now seems that vets are committing suicide at the rate of 20 or so a day.  More Vietnam vets have done so than died in combat there.</div><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:#000000"><br></div><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:#000000">The VA promises to cut waiting time, is being reorganized, is underfunded, etc.</div><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:#000000"><br></div><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:#000000">I am not a vet but was a clinical psychologist in part, and it seems that vets and PTSD is being treated like mental illness - i.e. like please just go away, I don't want to think about you.</div><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:#000000"><br></div><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:#000000">Sapolsky, whose book I have finished and will review shortly, says that brain images had to be shown to Congress so that they understand that a disease is there, not just some wimpy guys crying themselves to sleep at night.</div><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:#000000"><br></div><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:#000000">Outside of the mentally ill, I just don't know of a group that deserves far, far more attention than these vets.  Alcoholism, drug addiction, homelessness, are rampant.</div><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:#000000"><br></div><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:#000000">Why would anyone want to go fight a war for the USA?  Especially in unwinnable wars like we have now.</div><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:#000000"></div><br></div></blockquote></div><br></div></span><div class="gmail_extra">How many of those vets are also among the statistics for opioid-related deaths? I'm not asking to isolate the groups as much as identify that there are confounding factors that make single-symptom treatments unlikely to be effective.  If we start considering the extenuating circumstances for each demographic (or vets specifically) we will probably find a bunch of reasons that are obscured behind a one-size/one-problem sound bite.<br></div></div>
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