<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Aug 2, 2017 at 3:05 PM, Adrian Tymes <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:atymes@gmail.com" target="_blank">atymes@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto"><span class="gmail-">On Aug 2, 2017 12:02 PM, "William Flynn Wallace" <<a href="mailto:foozler83@gmail.com" target="_blank">foozler83@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br><div class="gmail_extra" dir="auto"><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail-m_7678951680652301663quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(0,0,0)"> I find it nearly sickening that people, not just teens or never-to-be-grown-up adults, find real achievement in battling imaginary orcs and aliens and ghosts et alia.<br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><div class="gmail_quote"><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><br></div><div><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(0,0,0);display:inline">At least there is some athleticism in sports, as unnecessary as that will be to our future. Are really quick thumbs going to be all that important?</div> </div></div></div></div></blockquote></div></div><div dir="auto"><br></div></span><div dir="auto">Yes. Consider the increasing amount of drone warfare, not to mention the increased emphasis on similar tool use instead of manual labor in manufacturing, agriculture, and other such industries. Also, e-sports can provide the same spectacle and teamwork without ruining the players for subsequent employment (see football's current problems with brain trauma). And that's just scratching the surface.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">There is much beauty and glory - and, yes, achievement - to be had in video games. There is much potential to waste time too...but consider: if a typical father and son go fishing all afternoon but return with nothing, versus if they do the same but their tools (and video-game-trained expertise on said tools) let them return with enough fish to feed their family for a week, which outcome is better for their family and their community?</div></div></blockquote><div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(0,0,0);display:inline">--------------</div> </div><div><div class="gmail_default" style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small;display:inline">Ah, I see you are not a fisherman. Going fishing with your son is not about catching fish at all. Sitting back and letting machines do the work? </div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small;display:inline">What </div><span id="gmail-docs-internal-guid-b8d91147-a452-5277-e5c8-96f87c06530d"><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">fun is that? <div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(0,0,0);display:inline">What cameraderie? </div>Send your AI car to the lake, <div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(0,0,0);display:inline">have your AI robot </div>get in the AI boat, and catch the fish while you sit home if what you want is really fish<div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(0,0,0);display:inline">.</div></span></span></div><div><span><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(0,0,0);display:inline"><br></div></span></span></div><div><span><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(0,0,0);display:inline">Football may be dying, pun noted. I won't miss it, any more than I would miss boxing or any sport whose aim is to do physical damage to the other team members.</div></span></span></div><div><span><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(0,0,0);display:inline"><br></div></span></span></div><div><span><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(0,0,0);display:inline">I suppose the old professor came out in my post. The idea of killing aliens is fine, but what are you learning? It doesn't take hundreds or thousands of hours for your thumbs to learn, does it?</div></span></span></div><div><span><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(0,0,0);display:inline"><br></div></span></span></div><div><span><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(0,0,0);display:inline">Glory in video games? Some kind of oxymoron there, I think. Still, if that's all a person can succeed at, they will find some fans somewhere. Can you imagine a hirer being impressed with video game expertise? I cannot. It would be a big negative to me. Could the person keep his hands off the games while working for me? Apparently many can not do so. Which is why they have the keystroke software, eh?</div></span></span></div><div><span><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(0,0,0);display:inline"><br></div></span></span></div><div><span><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(0,0,0);display:inline">Also, the obsessive reader came out as well. Many might say that I waste most of my time with my head in a book, but I have learned mucho from them.</div></span><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"></span></p><div class="gmail_default" style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;display:inline">I also suspect that the skills learned in one game do not transfer that well to another one. Data needed here.</div></span></div><div><span><div class="gmail_default" style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;display:inline"><br></div></span></div><div><span><div class="gmail_default" style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;display:inline">Oh well, I've had my little crabby say on the topic. Get your fun where you will.</div></span></div><div><span><div class="gmail_default" style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;display:inline"><br></div></span></div><div><span><div class="gmail_default" style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;display:inline">bill w</div></span></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">_____________________________<div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(0,0,0);display:inline"></div>_<wbr>_________________<br>
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