<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(0,0,0)">See: </div><div class="gmail_default"><font color="#000000" face="verdana, sans-serif">Chemical Brain Preservation and Human Suspended Animation</font><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><br></div><div class="gmail_default"><font color="#000000" face="verdana, sans-serif"><a href="http://www.alcor.org/Library/html/chemopreservation2.html">http://www.alcor.org/Library/html/chemopreservation2.html</a></font><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(0,0,0)">Note that neither Fahy nor McIntyre recommends ASC in place of vitrification at this time. </div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(0,0,0)">Being able to chemically preserve brain slices is not comparable to preserving entire human brains. </div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(0,0,0)">The fact that ASC allows you to show clearly ultrastructural preservation better doesn't mean that ASC is doing a better job at ultrastructure preservation. Current research is working on reducing or eliminating dehydration so that we can provide equally clear evidence of excellent preservation with the existing process. </div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><br></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Nov 27, 2017 at 7:56 AM, John Clark <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:johnkclark@gmail.com" target="_blank">johnkclark@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><span class=""><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif">On Sun, Nov 26, 2017 at 9:00 PM, spike </span><span dir="ltr" style="font-family:arial,sans-serif"><<a href="mailto:spike66@att.net" target="_blank">spike66@att.net</a>></span><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif"> wrote:</span><br></div></span><div class="gmail_extra"><div class="gmail_quote"><br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex"><span class=""><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;display:inline">​> ​</div>Seems like a business op to offer a low-cost alternative to cryonics.  You could buy all your own stuff ahead, then pay Alcor to do not a heck of a lot more than put your head in a jar of preservative and keep the door locked.</span><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;display:inline">​c​</div><span class="">I can imagine<div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;display:inline">​ ​</div>plenty of people who might opt for a few-thousand clam alternative, even if they go in knowing it is a longshot.  Funerals are expensive: if it gets you out of that expense it might get some takers.</span></blockquote><div class="gmail_quote"><font size="4"><br></font></div><font size="4">I don't think ASC would be any cheaper than ALCOR's current method, it might even cost more, but I do think it would be better, possibly much better.  With ASC you'd still have to carefully infuse the brain with cryoprotectant, its just<div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;display:inline">​ ​</div>that<div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;display:inline">​ ​</div>with ASC you'd also infuse it with glutaraldehyde. And for the long term you'd still have to store the brain in liquid nitrogen at -196C.  Actually -135C would be slightly better for both methods, going colder than -135 produces some cracks, but the cracks are very narrow and its pretty obvious which parts belongs where so little information would be lost by the cracks, and as liquid nitrogen boils at -196<div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;display:inline">​C​</div> its simpler and cheaper to store things at that temperature.  <br><br><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;display:inline">​ ​</div>John K Clark</font><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0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<br></blockquote></div><br><br clear="all"><div><br></div>-- <br><div class="gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div><img src="https://docs.google.com/uc?export=download&id=0B9y0ZomMMmaTelJOQkJ6dmZyZ3M&revid=0B9y0ZomMMmaTa1NFNHMxT1dxejBMd2NqYkJsaDVzd3NrcDQ4PQ" width="200" height="50"><br></div><div>Max More, PhD</div><div>Strategic Philosopher</div><div>Co-editor, <i>The Transhumanist Reader</i></div><div><a href="http://www.amazon.com/Transhumanist-Reader-Contemporary-Technology-Philosophy/dp/1118334310/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1372225570&sr=1-1&keywords=the+transhumanist+reader" target="_blank">http://www.amazon.com/Transhumanist-Reader-Contemporary-Technology-Philosophy/dp/1118334310/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1372225570&sr=1-1&keywords=the+transhumanist+reader</a><br>President & CEO, Alcor Life Extension Foundation</div></div></div></div></div></div>
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