<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif">On Fri, Dec 1, 2017 at 6:57 AM, Rafal Smigrodzki </span><span dir="ltr" style="font-family:arial,sans-serif"><<a href="mailto:rafal.smigrodzki@gmail.com" target="_blank">rafal.smigrodzki@gmail.com</a>></span><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif"> wrote:</span><br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><div class="gmail_quote"><div><br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_extra"><div class="gmail_quote"><div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;display:inline">> </div>simple vitrification and <span id="gmail-m_-3267655676111297992:1jy.3">ASC</span> (which is also a form of vitrification) can be integrated in the same suspension <span id="gmail-m_-3267655676111297992:1jy.4">workflow</span>, with relatively minor increase in cost. We <span id="gmail-m_-3267655676111297992:1jy.5">uploaders</span> could share the <span id="gmail-m_-3267655676111297992:1jy.6">dewars</span> with the <span id="gmail-m_-3267655676111297992:1jy.7">biologicals</span> and let the godlike AIs of the future handle the details.</div></div></div></div></blockquote><div> </div><font size="4">That would<div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;display:inline"> </div>be<div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;display:inline"> </div>the obvious solution. I keep waiting for somebody to give<div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;display:inline"> </div>me<div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;display:inline"> </div>a practical reason why ASC can't be carried out on a large scale,<div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;display:inline"> </div>but<div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;display:inline"> </div>I<div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;display:inline"> </div>haven't heard one, the only objection to ASC that I've heard<div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;display:inline"> </div>comes<div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;display:inline"> </div>not from chemistry, biology, physics or even economics but from<div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;display:inline"> </div>bad philosophy<div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;display:inline">, REALLY bad philosophy</div> as<div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;display:inline"> </div>can be seen<div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;display:inline"> </div>in the current issue of Cryonics magazine,<div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;display:inline"> </div>disjointed<div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;display:inline"> </div>philosophical<div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;display:inline"> </div>musings<div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;display:inline"> </div>so bad<div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;display:inline"> </div>they<div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;display:inline"> </div>could very well turn out to be downright lethal. Its the sort of thing that gives philosophy a bad name.</font></div><div class="gmail_quote"><br></div><font size="4">If cryonicists<div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;display:inline"> </div>want to survive they're going to have to be ruthlessly rational and logical. The specter of vitalism, which should have die<div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;display:inline">d</div> 400 years ago but didn't, has come back and it could kill us. Maybe there is a real reason against ASC that I don't know and if so I'd like to be educated, but I've <div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;display:inline">heard</div> enough bilge about <div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;display:inline">the mighty</div> ORIGINAL (whatever that means)<div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;display:inline"> </div>and how that an<div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;display:inline">d</div> only that<div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;display:inline"> </div>biological body contains<div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;display:inline"> </div>a mysterious life...force..., or a<div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;display:inline"> </div>mysterious ... something, that the scientific method can't detect.<div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;display:inline"> </div>If I thought that mysterious something actually existed I'd forget all about Cryonics and just do what almost everybody else does when confronted with mortality, go for the standard religious mumbo jumbo snake oil.</font><div class="gmail_quote"><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_extra"><div class="gmail_quote"><div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;display:inline">> </div>If you offer an <span id="gmail-m_-3267655676111297992:1jy.8">ASC</span> option as a rider on my contract, even at a higher cost, I'll sign up.</div></div></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;display:inline"><font size="4">ME TOO! Just show me where to sign my name.</font></div></div><div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;display:inline"><font size="4"><br></font></div></div><div><font size="4"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;display:inline"> John K Clark</div> </font></div><div><br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex"><br>
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