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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b>From:</b> spike [mailto:spike66@att.net] <br><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, December 07, 2017 10:53 AM<br><b>To:</b> 'ExI chat list' <extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org><br><b>Subject:</b> RE: [ExI] alpha zero<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b>From:</b> extropy-chat [<a href="mailto:extropy-chat-bounces@lists.extropy.org">mailto:extropy-chat-bounces@lists.extropy.org</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>spike<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [ExI] alpha zero<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><b>From:</b> extropy-chat [<a href="mailto:extropy-chat-bounces@lists.extropy.org">mailto:extropy-chat-bounces@lists.extropy.org</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>John Clark<o:p></o:p></p><div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>>>>…</span>I still haven’t convinced myself it is true. spike<span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></blockquote><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>>>…If this is a hoax it's a very elaborate one the likes of which we haven't seen since the cold fusion fiasco. </span><span style='font-size:13.5pt'>…</span><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>John K Clark </span><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>>…Ja I could have clarified my doubt a bit. I don’t suspect an intentional hoax, rather something they neglected to tell us…spike<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>There is something else. If someone writes a chess-playing program today that defeats the best effort of the best humans for 500 years, that has been done. According to the article, what Alpha Zero has done is defeat the collective programming efforts of armies of professional programmers working with huge monetary rewards for the past 75 years, which is far more impressive than overpowering humans in chess.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Something is still not being told here methinks.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>spike<o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div></div></div></body></html>