<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_extra"><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Dec 8, 2017 at 10:22 AM, spike <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:spike66@att.net" target="_blank">spike66@att.net</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><br>...assuming they didn't do something to StockFish to artificially weaken it. I don't have StockFish, so I can't determine that question myself.<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Why not? It's free. </div><div><br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><span class="gmail-im gmail-HOEnZb">I expect this will be proven true or false in the next couple weeks with first reports showing up anytime now. StockFish owners will take those games and see if SF really does what the paper reports, given these settings.<br>
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I can't shake the suspicion that something is amiss. Evidence to follow.<br></span></blockquote><div><br></div><div>This is from the Stockfish Wikipedia entry, emphasis mine: </div><div> </div></div><div class="gmail_extra"> <i>Stockfish versus AlphaZero[edit]</i></div><div class="gmail_extra"><i> In December 2017, AlphaZero (developed by Google's DeepMind division) defeated Stockfish 8 after just 4 hours of self-play, with no access to opening books or endgame tables, but with superior computing power allocated to AlphaZero.[26][27][28] Each program was given one minute's worth of thinking time per move. In 100 games from the normal starting position AlphaZero won 25 games as White, won 3 as Black, and tied the remaining 72.[29] In a series of twelve 100-game matches against Stockfish starting from popular openings, Alphazero won 290, drew 886 and lost 24.[citation needed] <b>The results of the tournaments do not indicate that Alpha-Go is a superior chess engine - the Alpha-Go algorithm was allocated more computing power for the games.</b>[27] Google said they are not commenting on the research until it is published in a journal.[29] The research also has not yet been peer reviewed.[29]</i></div><div class="gmail_extra"><i><br></i></div><div class="gmail_extra">-Dave</div></div></div>