<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:#000000"><br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Feb 23, 2018 at 10:00 AM, Adrian Tymes <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:atymes@gmail.com" target="_blank">atymes@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto"><span class="">On Feb 23, 2018 6:43 AM, "William Flynn Wallace" <<a href="mailto:foozler83@gmail.com" target="_blank">foozler83@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br><div class="gmail_extra" dir="auto"><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="m_6083719023782135152quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:#000000">People easily learn to fear spiders but won't learn to fear door knobs with any kind of training.</div></div></blockquote></div></div><div dir="auto"><br></div></span><div dir="auto">I can imagine Pavlovian conditioning. Hit someone with a doorknob often enough, and then when they next see you or anyone wield it - or, eventually, just see one in a door...</div></div></blockquote><div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(0,0,0);display:inline"></div></div><div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(0,0,0);display:inline">That would work with people, though if the guy were going through a hardware store he would not run screaming from the door knobs. In lab animals, the only one ethically usable, rekpeated shocks or whatever just do not work unless the animal has a prepared fear for that thing.</div></div><div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(0,0,0);display:inline"><br></div></div><div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(0,0,0);display:inline">bill w</div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto"><div class="gmail_extra" dir="auto"></div></div>
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