<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:#000000"><br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(0,0,0)">I totally forgot to mention that I got these ideas from an article that appeared in the New York Times yesterday. They did not come from me. Sorry if I misled you. bill w</div><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Mar 12, 2018 at 6:16 PM, Robert G Kennedy III, PE <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:robot@ultimax.com" target="_blank">robot@ultimax.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Concur w/Bill W's experience.<br>
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Recently, I searched for the "Radetzsky March" on YouTube. (The one that they always play on New Year's Day at the Vienna Staatsoper, wherein the audience clapping was explicitly scored in by the composer Strauss Jr.)<br>
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After I watched it, the Recommended screen refreshed itself. Among other highly-ranked suggestions appeared the "Horst Wessel Song", with swastika and all. WTF? I was pretty stunned.<br>
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RGK3<br>
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On 2018-03-12 16:15, <a href="mailto:extropy-chat-request@lists.extropy.org" target="_blank">extropy-chat-request@lists.ext<wbr>ropy.org</a> wrote:<br>
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Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2018 11:00:52 -0500<br>
From: William Flynn Wallace <<a href="mailto:foozler83@gmail.com" target="_blank">foozler83@gmail.com</a>><br>
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Subject: [ExI] youtube a radicalizer<br>
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In the NYT<br>
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The journalist created two accounts: one in which she viewed liberal<br>
videos, the other, conservative.<br>
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The Youtube algorithm recommended videos that were more radical than the<br>
ones she viewed:<br>
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After viewing Trump rallies, she was recommended white supremacy ones.<br>
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After viewing Clinton and Sanders, she got recommendations alluding to a<br>
conspiracy in gov. that was behind the towers attack. (this is liberal?)<br>
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After viewing videos about vegetarianism, she got ones about vegans.<br>
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After viewing jogging, she got marathons.<br>
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Quite a consistent pattern.<br>
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The idea behind the algorithm must be that keeping on viewing Youtube must<br>
depend on interest level, and people are more interested in the radical<br>
ideas than more moderate ones.<br>
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The media itself is radicalizing. I don't have to tell you that someone at<br>
Google knows something about psychology.<br>
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bill w<br>
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