<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:#000000">Isn't the Turing test just whether people can tell it's a person or a computer?</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:#000000"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:#000000">It seems to this psychologist that that is a very low bar to get over.  People believe what they want to believe and are easily fooled.  I'd like to see a more meaningful test.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:#000000"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:#000000">bill w</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, May 15, 2018 at 1:04 PM, Mike Dougherty <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:msd001@gmail.com" target="_blank">msd001@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto"><span class=""><div class="gmail_quote" dir="auto"><div dir="ltr">On Tue, May 15, 2018, 1:23 PM John Clark <<a href="mailto:johnkclark@gmail.com" target="_blank">johnkclark@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><font size="4">Wow, with "Google Duplex" It looks like machines are getting close to passing Mr. Turing's test.</font><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><a href="http://www.kurzweilai.net/two-major-advances-in-autonomous-technologies-that-rival-human-abilities?utm_source=KurzweilAI+Daily+Newsletter&utm_campaign=1998733fea-UA-946742-1&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_6de721fb33-1998733fea-282205341" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.kurzweilai.net/two-<wbr>major-advances-in-autonomous-<wbr>technologies-that-rival-human-<wbr>abilities?utm_source=<wbr>KurzweilAI+Daily+Newsletter&<wbr>utm_campaign=1998733fea-UA-<wbr>946742-1&utm_medium=email&utm_<wbr>term=0_6de721fb33-1998733fea-<wbr>282205341</a><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"></div></div></blockquote></div><div dir="auto"><br></div></span><div dir="auto">Or does this suggest that people are more robotic than they like to admit?</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Brains are expensive to operate,  we've learned habits as shortcuts to thinking - this demo illustrates how machines can exploit our expectations/habits to manipulate the world.   </div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Sure,  the machine navigates the interaction but it's not scheduling appointments with its own volition. </div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Talking about the Turing test in this context strikes me as confusing the secretary for the CEO.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">I will concede I may not have a deep understanding of the parameters and requirements of the Turing test.</div><div class="gmail_quote" dir="auto"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><br></div></div>
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